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       Re: PPA ZONE but no signs at bays
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: February 23, 2025, 4:50 am
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       No requirement for 2 signs:
       See 13.10.3 (which gives a reflection of the law but is not law
       in itself)
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       The law is:
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       See s18.1(a).
       '..authority may consider requisite for securing that adequate
       information as to the effect of the order is made available to
       persons using the road;'
       #Post#: 59416--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PPA ZONE but no signs at bays
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: February 23, 2025, 12:55 pm
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       --- Quote from: Miffed link ---
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       > The smoothie was made by my sister, and the vomiting that
       night was unexplained, it was only a few days later that I
       learnt about adverse reactions to spirulina.
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       Again, what evidence do you have to support this? As a last
       resort it may have to come down to a witness statement from your
       sister, but the reason I mention this is illustrated here
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       />the most recent outcome based on this was Nashrin Master v
       London Borough of Hackney (2240537076, 19 February 2025)
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hu-p41Pvxehyuky0GpFJ7bt6_YdR-tuy/view.<br
       />This gives you another angle of attack entirely separate from
       the signage issues, and having two grounds of appeal is much
       better than just having one.
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       Re: PPA ZONE but no signs at bays
   DIR By: Miffed
       Date: February 24, 2025, 10:09 am
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       Hello,
       The only evidence i'd have would be a witness statement from my
       sister, and as I haven't mentioned it during this process except
       on here, would that not be acceptable to mention it at this late
       stage now?
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       Re: PPA ZONE but no signs at bays
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: February 24, 2025, 11:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Miffed link ---
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       > The only evidence i'd have would be a witness statement from
       my sister, and as I haven't mentioned it during this process
       except on here, would that not be acceptable to mention it at
       this late stage now?
       >
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       It's not that late, you're still at the representations stage. A
       witness statement must provide the full name and address of the
       witness, if you're happy putting something together then great,
       if not please PM me and I'll do my best to assist.
       The main point of getting a statement (or any document for that
       matter) is illustrated by the case of Nashrin Master v London
       Borough of Hackney (2240537076, 19 February 2025)
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hu-p41Pvxehyuky0GpFJ7bt6_YdR-tuy/view.
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       Re: PPA ZONE but no signs at bays
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: September 7, 2025, 10:58 am
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       Outcome
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gqIXXyQhPeuUOfkqDzKbmKKv1sqsAzcD/view.
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       Re: PPA ZONE but no signs at bays
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: September 7, 2025, 11:11 am
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       As I posted earlier:
       OP, probably as many appeals to the adjudicator are won on
       procedural grounds arising from a Notice of Rejection of formal
       representations as are won on more standard issues e.g.
       contravention did not occur, inadequate signage etc.
       And yours is a case in point.
       Dreadful performance by council officers who can't submit proper
       evidence, and good support from cp.
       But don't rely on the former, sometimes they get it right
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