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#Post#: 51328--------------------------------------------------
No pictures on the council website.
DIR By: bobjones
Date: December 29, 2024, 5:03 pm
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Hi all,
Quick question for you. I received a parking ticket on December
20th but their still aren't any photos on the Hounslow website.
It just says "There was a problem obtaining PCN images. Please
try again later."
If the pictures don't appear by close to the appeal deadline can
I appeal saying the offence didn't happen as there's no
evidence?
Thanks.
#Post#: 51329--------------------------------------------------
Re: No pictures on the council website.
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 29, 2024, 5:11 pm
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--- Quote from: bobjones link ---
>
> Hi all,
> Quick question for you. I received a parking ticket on
December 20th but their still aren't any photos on the Hounslow
website. It just says "There was a problem obtaining PCN images.
Please try again later."
> If the pictures don't appear by close to the appeal deadline
can I appeal saying the offence didn't happen as there's no
evidence?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Photos are not a legal requirement in the legislation and also
the regulations. If the CEO was unable to take photos at the
time, he can still serve a PCN. If you are going down the line
of "no photos = no contravention" then you would only be able to
test this at London Tribunals, where the civil test of "on the
balance of probabilities" applies. I can't see a win. Sorry.
However, if you start a new thread using the advice and
instructions here: -
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
Your PCN and narrative on the circumstances can be looked at and
advice given. If you haven't yet submitted any reps you need to
get a move on, because the end of the discount period is rapidly
approaching.
#Post#: 51330--------------------------------------------------
Re: No pictures on the council website.
DIR By: bobjones
Date: December 29, 2024, 5:26 pm
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Ah, that's a shame but thanks.
I'm sure the CEO took photos as he was just leaving when I
returned to the vehicle. Surprisngly we had a pleasant chat for
about 5 minutes. He was a nice guy and it was totally my fault
as I'd lost track of time and overstayed.
#Post#: 51335--------------------------------------------------
Re: No pictures on the council website.
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: December 29, 2024, 5:52 pm
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Might be any number of reasons for no photos. Please post up
images/scans/photos of both sides of the PCN. Please leave
everything visible including all dates, times, locations PCN
number and the vehicle reg. Since this is an on-street PCN there
is nothing that needs to be redacted.
Instructions are in the READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR
CASE!**
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/<br
/>sticky post as [member=12]Incandescent[/member] advised above.
#Post#: 51469--------------------------------------------------
Re: No pictures on the council website.
DIR By: bobjones
Date: December 31, 2024, 6:28 am
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I'm thinking of trying my luck with an appeal as the parking
there is controlled by displaying a paper permit. You write in
the time of arrival and each filled in line on the permit gives
you an hours parking.
Without the photo of the displayed permit there's no evidence it
was or wasn't filled in correctly.
I'll try to upload the ticket next. It's a Hounslow pcn for
displaying an invalid physical permit.
#Post#: 51546--------------------------------------------------
Re: No pictures on the council website.
DIR By: bobjones
Date: December 31, 2024, 4:31 pm
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I've found the pictures! Went to a different part of the website
to appeal and there they were!
Happy New Year to you all.
:)
#Post#: 51559--------------------------------------------------
Re: No pictures on the council website.
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: January 1, 2025, 2:11 am
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--- Quote from: bobjones link ---
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> I've found the pictures! Went to a different part of the
website to appeal and there they were!
>
> Happy New Year to you all.
>
> :)
>
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Then please to post them here...
#Post#: 51606--------------------------------------------------
Re: No pictures on the council website.
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: January 1, 2025, 11:24 am
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--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
>
> Might be any number of reasons for no photos. Please post up
images/scans/photos of both sides of the PCN. Please leave
everything visible including all dates, times, locations PCN
number and the vehicle reg. Since this is an on-street PCN there
is nothing that needs to be redacted.
>
> Instructions are in the READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING
YOUR CASE!**
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/<br
/>sticky post as [member=12]Incandescent[/member] advised above.
>
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Or at least post up the vehicle reg and the PCN number.
And if you do so we can view the photos for ourselves. However
the whole PCN would be best.
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