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       #Post#: 3967--------------------------------------------------
       Havant Road E17 / Turner Road E17 - 52m Failing to comply with a
       prohibition on certain types of vehicle
   DIR By: zincy
       Date: August 27, 2023, 1:51 pm
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       Hi All,
       Unfortunately, I got this PCN - Google maps took my wife through
       here and she simply did not see it.
       I think they recently changed the layout of the road but cannot
       be sure.
       CCTV Footage is here:
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VpDuYF7Pi6dqZWc4xYfo5-2W8ZBk76Yz/view?usp=sharing
       PCN is here:
  HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YSiqA7lCLUhGTcpYkrKfZoL1jN5iklYF/view?usp=sharing
       Streetview is here:
  HTML https://goo.gl/maps/mGz23T3eGCe24Xr29
       I would be grateful for your help.
       Zincy
       #Post#: 3983--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havant Road E17 / Turner Road E17 - 52m Failing to comply
       with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: August 28, 2023, 7:37 am
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       The restriction has been in place since 5 November 2021, when
       The Waltham Forest (Prescribed Routes) (Vallentin Road region)
       (No.1) Experimental Traffic Order 2021
  HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1Fh5YNjsxerQfvAVsqiCNFa9zrRkwyMHD<br
       />came into force.
       That order has since expired, so I have requested a copy of The
       Waltham Forest (Prescribed Routes) (Vallentin Road region) (No.
       1) Traffic Order 2023.
       The deadline to make representations and preserve the discount
       is 6 September, the only obvious ground is that the grounds
       given on the website do not match the legislation:
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/tsJ9wJe.png
       However I'm minded to say that that should be kept in reserve
       for the tribunal, and a plea for discretion would be the best
       strategy to buy us some time.
       #Post#: 3995--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havant Road E17 / Turner Road E17 - 52m Failing to comply
       with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle
   DIR By: zincy
       Date: August 28, 2023, 10:23 am
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       Thanks Cp, much appreciated, as always.
       I'll share a draft here of my challenge on discretionary grounds
       for you to once over if that's okay?
       #Post#: 4001--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havant Road E17 / Turner Road E17 - 52m Failing to comply
       with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: August 28, 2023, 11:23 am
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       --- Quote from: zincy link ---
       >
       > I'll share a draft here of my challenge on discretionary
       grounds for you to once over if that's okay?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sounds like a plan.
       #Post#: 4012--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havant Road E17 / Turner Road E17 - 52m Failing to comply
       with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: August 28, 2023, 2:42 pm
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       @cp:  there have been decisions about the discrepancy between
       grounds published on websites and the actual PCN I believe.
       Adverse I recall.
       #Post#: 4013--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havant Road E17 / Turner Road E17 - 52m Failing to comply
       with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: August 28, 2023, 3:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
       >
       > @cp:  there have been decisions about the discrepancy between
       grounds published on websites and the actual PCN I believe.
       Adverse I recall.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Look on the PCN spreadsheet, key decisions tab, rows 419 to 422.
       #Post#: 4462--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havant Road E17 / Turner Road E17 - 52m Failing to comply
       with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle
   DIR By: zincy
       Date: September 6, 2023, 4:39 am
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=zincy link=topic=446.msg3995#msg3995
       date=1693236237]
       > I'll share a draft here of my challenge on discretionary
       grounds for you to once over if that's okay?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Sounds like a plan.
       [/quote]
       Hi CP
       I have now submitted the discretionary appeal. I beleive today
       was the last day to secure the discount.
       Did you have any luck in retreiving the new traffic order?
       #Post#: 4660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havant Road E17 / Turner Road E17 - 52m Failing to comply
       with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: September 8, 2023, 6:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: zincy link ---
       >
       > Did you have any luck in retreiving the new traffic order?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The council has until 27 September to provide it, though Waltham
       Forest usually come back long before the deadline.
       #Post#: 5750--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havant Road E17 / Turner Road E17 - 52m Failing to comply
       with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: September 22, 2023, 4:17 am
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       The Waltham Forest (Prescribed Routes) (Vallentin Road region)
       (No.1) Traffic Order 2023
  HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=15fPJ3CcZQED1Bk23HiHe42ebuXSPab1i.
       #Post#: 6350--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havant Road E17 / Turner Road E17 - 52m Failing to comply
       with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle
   DIR By: zincy
       Date: September 29, 2023, 6:58 am
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       Hi CP & all,
  HTML https://www.docdroid.net/J78ufyE/notice-of-rejection-pdf
       Notice of Rejection received.
       Please kindly advise.
       Thanks in advance!
       Zincy
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