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Tyninghame links, east lothian council. 01 parked in a
restricted street during the prescribed hours.
DIR By: Jimo2024
Date: December 27, 2024, 9:03 am
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HTML https://imgur.com/a/fzmfqjm
Location
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/VJnNh1TJQLj2uM2t5
Picture
HTML https://imgur.com/a/qTXR1dc
Picture of half a sign the council is using to backup the pcn
HTML https://imgur.com/a/SHKxICe
Parked here from 1135 until 1309 as far as I am concerned I was
off the highway altogether and was not causing any sort of
obstruction.
Sign has been broken and is now incomplete.
Parking ticket is barely legible owing to faded ink as shown in
picture however I think it must say 01 parked in a restricted
street during the prescribed hours. There was no signage talking
about hours or any other signage for that matter on my approach
from the west.
#Post#: 51099--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tyninghame links, east lothian council. 01 parked in a
restricted street during the prescribed hours.
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 27, 2024, 11:01 am
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Well, sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but the double-yellow
lines are sufficient on their own to define the restriction of
No Parking 24x7. DYLs apply to the whole road and that includes
footways and verges up to the property line. Whether you were
causing an obstruction is totally irrelevant. We see lots of
cases where motorists park off the carriageway where there are
yellow lines and are shocked at getting a PCN. There may be a
technical appeal argument based on council mismanagement of the
enforcement process, or fatal errors on the PCN itself. Please
therefore post all pages of the PCN for inspection.
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Re: Tyninghame links, east lothian council. 01 parked in a
restricted street during the prescribed hours.
DIR By: Jimo2024
Date: December 28, 2024, 2:02 am
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Thanks for your reply.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/88Umshp
HTML https://imgur.com/a/ZRomXO4
I am interested about the extent of the property that is
applicable. In this case the road is alongside a field, so
presumably you can't get a ticket for parking on the field?
Also the sign that is supposed to say no parking on the verges
is snapped in half and is not seen until you carry on down the
road for 30m or so. I posteda link above to this.
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Re: Tyninghame links, east lothian council. 01 parked in a
restricted street during the prescribed hours.
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 28, 2024, 3:03 am
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> Thanks for your reply.
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HTML https://imgur.com/a/88Umshp
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HTML https://imgur.com/a/ZRomXO4
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> I am interested about the extent of the property that is
applicable. In this case the road is alongside a field, so
presumably you can't get a ticket for parking on the field?
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> Also the sign that is supposed to say no parking on the verges
is snapped in half and is not seen until you carry on down the
road for 30m or so. I posteda link above to this.
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> [img]
HTML https://imgur.com/a/fzmfqjm[/img]
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The sign is not a traffic sign, the double-yellow lines are
enough on their own. There's nothing to stop you submitting
representations of course. You have the right in law to take the
council all the way to adjudication but I don't think you would
win, that's all.
HOwever, wait a bit and see what others say, but don't lose any
deadlines on the PCN.
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Re: Tyninghame links, east lothian council. 01 parked in a
restricted street during the prescribed hours.
DIR By: Jimo2024
Date: December 29, 2024, 8:18 am
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Also the yellow line is in poor condition and there are no end
points showing.[react][img
width=200]
HTML https://imgur.com/a/ZxdBRvl[/img][/react]
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Re: Tyninghame links, east lothian council. 01 parked in a
restricted street during the prescribed hours.
DIR By: lexy
Date: December 29, 2024, 9:26 am
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Doesn’t matter.
The law changed a few years ago. The days of people getting out
of penalty charges because the lines are slightly damaged or T
bars are missing are long gone.
If the average person would look at them and think “those are
two yellow lines” then they’re enforceable, even if they’re
faded.
It’s called Substantial Compliance.
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Re: Tyninghame links, east lothian council. 01 parked in a
restricted street during the prescribed hours.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 29, 2024, 10:33 am
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This is a contravention and unless there's a PCN issue the
discount beckons.
The CEO shouldn't have taken a pic of that sign - as said it's
irrelevant and had no enforcement. There is another way of
preventing verge parking using authorised no verge waiting or
stopping signs but yellow lines also do the job where they don't
want you to also park on the carriageway.
Only other point is if they've only started enforcing without
warning.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/JnT10hs/Screenshot-2024-12-29-at-14-59-51.png
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