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#Post#: 50799--------------------------------------------------
Code 62 - LBBD
DIR By: Etihad
Date: December 22, 2024, 7:39 pm
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Hello.
I have been a good driver this year so far and just before the
year was about to end, I got hit hit with a PCN in my own
backyard.
To be honest, I was in a bit of a hurry. I saw the cars on the
right and the cars in front and assumed it would be safe to park
there.
I am happy to be told to man up and pay the fine if nothing can
be done.
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GSV : Link
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It has been some time, so please let me know if I need to
provide further information.
Thank you.
#Post#: 50806--------------------------------------------------
Re: Code 62 - LBBD
DIR By: mickR
Date: December 23, 2024, 2:52 am
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where were you parked in the GSV ?
are there now any signs allowing pavement parking anywhere in
the street?
#Post#: 50810--------------------------------------------------
Re: Code 62 - LBBD
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 23, 2024, 4:30 am
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> I saw the cars on the right and the cars in front and assumed
it would be safe to park there.
>
--- End Quote ---
So, as per MickR's question; where were you parked ?
#Post#: 50817--------------------------------------------------
Re: Code 62 - LBBD
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 23, 2024, 6:04 am
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Post the PCN with no redactions.
#Post#: 50867--------------------------------------------------
Re: Code 62 - LBBD
DIR By: Etihad
Date: December 23, 2024, 11:14 am
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I was parked on the double yellow lines next to the brown bin.
:-[
There are no signs on the street.
Here are the photos from the council's website:
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#Post#: 50896--------------------------------------------------
Re: Code 62 - LBBD
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 23, 2024, 2:00 pm
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So you parked on double-yellow lines that apply 24x7, and also
part on the footway, which has been an offence in London since
the 70s. This means the CEO had a choice of contravention to
apply to the PCN, and chose the off-carriageway option because
this has no exemptions.
So what made you think that parking partly off-carriageway
directly upon double-yellow lines was OK ? Double-yellow lines
require no signs, because they apply 24x7
#Post#: 50907--------------------------------------------------
Re: Code 62 - LBBD
DIR By: Etihad
Date: December 23, 2024, 3:44 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> So you parked on double-yellow lines that apply 24x7, and also
part on the footway, which has been an offence in London since
the 70s. This means the CEO had a choice of contravention to
apply to the PCN, and chose the off-carriageway option because
this has no exemptions.
>
> So what made you think that parking partly off-carriageway
directly upon double-yellow lines was OK ? Double-yellow lines
require no signs, because they apply 24x7
>
--- End Quote ---
I was in a bit of a rush and popped to the shop nearby, not
having noticed at the time where I was parking.
#Post#: 50909--------------------------------------------------
Re: Code 62 - LBBD
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 23, 2024, 5:15 pm
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Please post a GSV link to the location, but I have to say that
if you rush around London and park without looking whether it is
allowed or not, then you're going to get a lot more PCNs, which
even the advice on this forum may not get you out of paying.
#Post#: 50917--------------------------------------------------
Re: Code 62 - LBBD
DIR By: Etihad
Date: December 23, 2024, 7:08 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> Please post a GSV link to the location, but I have to say that
if you rush around London and park without looking whether it is
allowed or not, then you're going to get a lot more PCNs, which
even the advice on this forum may not get you out of paying.
>
--- End Quote ---
This is the GSV.
GSV
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5515272,0.1524006,3a,75y,353.26h,66.84t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shwsGMqfe8nD0OLu1Xrj2gw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D23.162457036749217%26panoid%3DhwsGMqfe8nD0OLu1Xrj2gw%26yaw%3D353.25650006185447!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
#Post#: 50919--------------------------------------------------
Re: Code 62 - LBBD
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 23, 2024, 7:31 pm
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--- Quote from: Etihad link ---
>
> [quote author=Incandescent link=topic=4403.msg50909#msg50909
date=1734995703]
> Please post a GSV link to the location, but I have to say that
if you rush around London and park without looking whether it is
allowed or not, then you're going to get a lot more PCNs, which
even the advice on this forum may not get you out of paying.
>
--- End Quote ---
This is the GSV.
GSV
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5515272,0.1524006,3a,75y,353.26h,66.84t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shwsGMqfe8nD0OLu1Xrj2gw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D23.162457036749217%26panoid%3DhwsGMqfe8nD0OLu1Xrj2gw%26yaw%3D353.25650006185447!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
[/quote]
Ah, yes, a typical Dagenham estate where off-carriageway parking
is commonplace, but obviously not where there are double-yellow
lines. I see no signs that permit such parking, but this council
seems totally oblivious to the need to sign such things.
I'm afraid you have nothing to put on any reps. Nobody yet seems
to have suggested any 'technical' appeal.
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