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       #Post#: 50739--------------------------------------------------
       Red light offence, no course offered.
   DIR By: Korting
       Date: December 22, 2024, 5:33 am
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       I received a NIP for contravening a red light in Camden which I
       hold my hands up to.
       Although I sent the completed forms back very quickly the Police
       have come back to me with an offer of £100 + 3 points.
       I thought they would usually offer a course, Why would they not?
       I was about 3 seconds in the red.
       I did a speed awareneess course back in October.
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       Re: Red light offence, no course offered.
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: December 22, 2024, 5:47 am
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       Unlike with speeding, there seem to be no guidelines for
       offering a course for red light contravention (not that I have
       seen, anyway).
       Three seconds does seem a bit on the high side (bearing in mind
       that amber - which also means "stop" - would have been displayed
       for around three seconds prior to the red).
       The only thing you can do is to ring them and ask them if hey
       would reconsider.
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       Re: Red light offence, no course offered.
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: December 22, 2024, 7:16 am
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       I would agree 3 seconds is actually quite a long time.
       there are 2 junctions near me which would see you T boned at 2
       seconds  into red
       #Post#: 50783--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Red light offence, no course offered.
   DIR By: Korting
       Date: December 22, 2024, 3:30 pm
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       Thank you for your replies, does anyone have a phone number for
       the Camera Processing Services?  I cant find a number anywhere.
       #Post#: 50788--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Red light offence, no course offered.
   DIR By: Dave Green
       Date: December 22, 2024, 3:59 pm
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       I know it's a different police force but if the Met follow the
       same criteria, this may explain the lack of a course:
  HTML https://www.lancashire.police.uk/faqs/conditional-offer-of-a-fixed-penalty-or-driver-retraining-course/why-have-i-not-been-offered-the-opportunity-to-attend-a-driver-retraining-course/
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       > Offences up to 2.9 seconds into red light are eligible for
       Diversionary Course or Fixed Penalty
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       > Offences 3.0 seconds and above are reported for prosecution
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       #Post#: 52023--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Red light offence, no course offered.
   DIR By: Korting
       Date: January 5, 2025, 10:59 am
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       I called the Traffic management office and they said I was too
       far into the red to be offered a course.
       So I'll just have to pay up and take the points.
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