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Debt Recovery Letter Trace Debt - Hungarian Traffic Violation
DIR By: Kellyjp10@hotmail.com
Date: December 16, 2024, 8:59 am
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I have received a letter from Trace Debt Recovery with two
unpaid toll infractions from Hungary taking place on July 29th
and July 30th, 2023. The demand of this posting is 30th October
and 29th November 2024.
The charges for the debt recovery are 290.71 GBP and 290.75 GBP.
Firstly, I'm not sure if I even committed these toll
infractions to start as this allegedly happened nearly 18 months
ago. I was in Hungary with my car at the time, but I do no
remember the roads I was driving on so long ago. Perhaps it
could have happened, but maybe it did not. Because I don't speak
Hungarian, I'm not sure.
Moreover, the main reason for writing today is, this is the
first notification in 18 months that I have received and it is
coming from a Debt Recovery Group. I was completely unaware
these two toll infractions even occurred.
Trace Debt Recovery acted as if I knew and insisted I pay nearly
600 GBP in fees immediately which I said I would not pay without
further information. They simply said it would go to court.
I'm seeking advice what I should do as a next step. If I had
received letters from the Hungarian Officials that a toll
infraction took place in the Summer of 2023, I would have
responded to it or at least made an appeal or asked for more
information.
Did they not contact me because they (Hungarian Officials) do
not have access to the DVLA data-base? If so, then this is
flawed from the start as I wasn't given any information in the
Summer of 2023.
Thank you for any information or advice.
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Re: Debt Recovery Letter Trace Debt - Hungarian Traffic
Violation
DIR By: b789
Date: December 16, 2024, 9:44 am
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Please don't tell us you actually contacted Trace. They are a
bunch of simpleton debt collectors with no powers to anything.
Ignore and get on with your life. Trace cannot do anything about
this except to try and persuade you to cough up and pay into
their scam.
They rely on the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree to pay
up out of ignorance of the law and their rights. Trace cannot
initiate any litigation as they are not a party to any contract
that is being disputed.
Aside from the jurisdiction issues, what do you imagine they can
do? What do you think the Hungarian authorities (assuming this
is a traffic penalty issue and not a simple contractual issue)
can do about this? Nothing. Zero. Zilch.
Use Trace's letters as kindling or to line the bottom of a
litter tray. Never, ever, EVER, communicate with a useless debt
collector.
#Post#: 50108--------------------------------------------------
Re: Debt Recovery Letter Trace Debt - Hungarian Traffic
Violation
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: December 16, 2024, 11:11 am
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Do not confuse Trace = Trace Debt Recovery Service
with the London Councils' scheme for locating towed cars
HTML https://archive.londoncouncils.gov.uk/services/parking-services/trace-towed-vehicle-tracing-service
#Post#: 78389--------------------------------------------------
Re: Debt Recovery Letter Trace Debt - Hungarian Traffic
Violation
DIR By: bazzatronic
Date: June 26, 2025, 3:27 pm
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Saw this and I know its an old thread, but could help some
people down the track.
A few months ago I got the standard Trace Hungary Fine letter
and I decided to respond and put an end to the nonsense. Here is
the letter I used. After I sent this letter they stopped
responding. Never heard a peep from them after the this. ;D
Letter to TRACE Debt Recovery
[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, Postcode]
[Email Address – optional]
[Date]
Collections Department
TRACE Debt Recovery UK Limited
PO Box 1449
Northampton, NN2 1DW
Subject: Request for Evidence and Clarification – Case ID
[Insert Case ID]
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing in response to your letter dated [insert date on
the letter] regarding an alleged outstanding Hungarian toll
penalty charge notice (PCN) associated with my vehicle [Vehicle
Registration Number: [insert number]].
Lack of Prior Awareness
I would like to note that I have been unaware of any prior
correspondence regarding this matter. I was only recently
informed of this claim through your most recent letter, which I
am now addressing.
Request for Proof of Debt
I do not acknowledge this debt and require you to provide the
following before I consider this matter further:
A copy of the original fine issued by the Hungarian authority,
including the date, time, and location of the alleged toll
infraction.
Evidence that this fine was issued in accordance with Hungarian
law, including compliance with any relevant timeframes for
notification.
Confirmation of your legal authority to act on behalf of the
Hungarian toll authority or Euro Parking Collection (EPC).
Details of any legal agreements or authorisation that allow
TRACE to pursue this matter in the UK.
Clarification of Legal Standing
As TRACE is acting as a third-party debt recovery agent, I would
appreciate clarification as to whether you own the debt or are
merely representing another party. If you do not own the debt, I
will not engage further until such time as you or the original
authority issue a valid Letter Before Action (LBA) that complies
with UK pre-action protocols.
Dispute of the Claim
Should you fail to provide the requested evidence or
clarification, I will consider the matter closed and view
further correspondence as harassment under the Protection from
Harassment Act 1997.
Please treat this letter as a formal request for evidence. I
expect a full written response, with supporting documents,
within 14 days of the date of this letter. If you fail to comply
with this request, I will consider reporting your practices to
the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) and other relevant
regulatory bodies for investigation.
I look forward to your prompt response.
Yours faithfully,
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Re: Debt Recovery Letter Trace Debt - Hungarian Traffic
Violation
DIR By: b789
Date: June 27, 2025, 1:43 am
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You may want to have a read of this thread, where EPC have asked
the utter incompetents at Moorside Legal to issue a Letter of
Claim (LoC) for an identical case.
Moorside Legal LoC Foreign Road Toll (EPC)
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/moorside-legal-loc-foreign-road-toll-(epc)/
Just because Trace have not responded does not mean that they
have forgotten about you. Not that anything can actually be
done, but they will still be trying to shake the gullible tree
to see what low-hanging fruit is ready for picking.
Your efforts with Trace are a complete waste of time as they are
powerless to do anything except to try and scare recipients of
there letters into paying out of ignorance and fear. Your
warning should be directed at EPC. They are the entity that has
breached your GDPR.
Have a read of the linked thread and make your DVLA complaint
today.
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