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       #Post#: 50089--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Provisional licence and Pass certificate
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: December 16, 2024, 8:52 am
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       Yes it does mean that.
       It has no influence on penalty points or the probationary period
       for new drivers. That begins on the date on which the test is
       passed.
       #Post#: 50156--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Provisional licence and Pass certificate
   DIR By: nigelbb
       Date: December 17, 2024, 1:13 am
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       --- Quote from: 666 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=nigelbb link=topic=4320.msg50033#msg50033
       date=1734332662]
       > It must be an unusual situation to have to apply for a full
       licence, In the past couple of years I have spent many hours in
       the passenger seat accompanying two learner drivers. When they
       subsequently passed the driving test the DVLA automatically sent
       them their full licences which arrived within 7-10 days of the
       test.
       >
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       It's not automatic. The examiner asks whether you want that, and
       if so you must give him your provisional.
       [/quote]
       Ah! I hadn't realised the actual procedure & have just had my
       wife confirm that she had the option of keeping her provisional
       licence. I imagine that the vast majority must opt to have their
       full licence posted on to them.
       #Post#: 50484--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Provisional licence and Pass certificate
   DIR By: The Slithy Tove
       Date: December 19, 2024, 10:42 am
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       People clearly have different priorities over what is important
       to them. When I passed my test (decades ago) I applied for my
       full licence immediately. At 17 years old, it indicated a
       passport to independence (even if I had to borrow the parents'
       car to exercise that independence :) ).
       #Post#: 50508--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Provisional licence and Pass certificate
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: December 19, 2024, 3:13 pm
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       Me too, Slithy.
       However, back then your provisional (a little piece of paper
       stuck inside your little red book) lasted only six months. When
       it expired you had to either send it away for renewal or take it
       to the local driving licence office. In my case this was Black
       Prince Road in Vauxhall, London. You queued up, handed them your
       licence and ten bob (or whatever it was) and waited while they
       typed out you new licence.
       I also seem to recall that your "pink slip" (which you were
       given on passing your test) only lasted until the expiry of your
       provisional (so 6 months maximum).
       #Post#: 50667--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Provisional licence and Pass certificate
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: December 21, 2024, 6:56 am
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       I'd like to hear how this pans out.
       #Post#: 50668--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Provisional licence and Pass certificate
   DIR By: 666
       Date: December 21, 2024, 6:59 am
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       --- Quote from: mickR link ---
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       > I'd like to hear how this pans out.
       >
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       Don't hold your breath. When this was originally raised on
       another forum, the driver's father confirmed that they had no
       intention of taking it further.
       #Post#: 50671--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Provisional licence and Pass certificate
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: December 21, 2024, 7:57 am
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       Sorry, I should have reported back.
       As above, it was the driver's father who raised the issue. He
       reported back:
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       > all sorted- she saw same officer by chance at the station who
       helped her with this
       > same documents produced and reviewed and car now ok to be
       released
       > reiterated that he didnt want to take car but was instructed
       to.
       >
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       They are not taking it further. I got the impression that since
       the officer at the scene had been very helpful (she had, after
       all, driven into a ditch and presumably welcomed his help) they
       had no wish to involve him in a complaint. It seems he had no
       intention of seizing her car. It was only when his sergeant
       intervened that seizure reared its head.
       As it happened, the unlawful seizure made no particular
       difference to her as she could not drive the vehicle away from
       the scene anyway. But it could have done and for a sergeant to
       be so clearly ignorant of the law (and somewhat devoid of common
       sense into the bargain) was very poor.
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