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#Post#: 50900--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, parked in restricted street, Cranley Road Ilford
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DIR By: buscalls
Date: December 23, 2024, 2:24 pm
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Can I still use HCs argument too about out of time even though I
didn't mention in reps?
#Post#: 50904--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, parked in restricted street, Cranley Road Ilford
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DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 23, 2024, 2:50 pm
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--- Quote from: buscalls link ---
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> Can I still use HCs argument too about out of time even though
I didn't mention in reps?
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Of course
#Post#: 50944--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, parked in restricted street, Cranley Road Ilford
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DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 24, 2024, 6:03 am
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Your reps were poor as you realise because you didn't stand up
the loading exemption.
You still seem to have two solid grounds to take this to the
tribunal. Adjudicators often side with appellants on the lack of
PCN issuing when they hear from them in person.
#Post#: 51700--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, parked in restricted street, Cranley Road Ilford
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DIR By: buscalls
Date: January 2, 2025, 1:02 pm
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Going to take this to tribunal. I have the invoice from the
plumbing shop from day before when I prepaid for bathtub and
accessories which I am going to reference and attach.
Here is my draft of why I am appealing, please share your
feedback:
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"The vehicle was parked with hazards on next to a plumbing store
for loading of a bathtub that I pre-ordered 15 October 2024 for
collection 16 October 2024 (invoice attached). Given the bulky
nature of item I parked as close to the shop door as safely
possible to enable loading. Therefore in the first instance
loading exemption applies which renders PCN invalid.
I note that on the face of it the PCN has been served out of
time because more than 28 days have expired between the dates of
contravention and service.
Further the PCN alleges vehicle was driven away before CEO had
finished preparing PCN or was prevented from serving. The
council's photos show I did not prevent PCN from being issued
and I have photos as attached showing that there was traffic on
the road which clearly would have prevented the vehicle from
being driven away (attached). Therefore if CEO wanted to serve
PCN in person or affix to vehicle there was ample opportunity to
do so.
I cannot understand why this PCN was raised and what motivation
CEO/London Borough of Redbridge had for stating false
information on the PCN that vehicle was driven away or CEO was
prevented from serving. Therefore I request the PCN be
rescinded with immediate effect. I look forward to your
confirmation of the same."
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#Post#: 51824--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, parked in restricted street, Cranley Road Ilford
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DIR By: buscalls
Date: January 4, 2025, 1:01 am
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Any feedback appreciated, looking to submit today. Thanks
#Post#: 51831--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, parked in restricted street, Cranley Road Ilford
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DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 4, 2025, 4:23 am
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--- Quote from: buscalls link ---
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> Any feedback appreciated, looking to submit today. Thanks
>
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I think you should remove the penultimate sentence - "I cannot
understand....", and add the following to the last sentence: -
"The points I have made above are irrefutable, therefore...
<then rest of sentence>"
#Post#: 51843--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, parked in restricted street, Cranley Road Ilford
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DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: January 4, 2025, 6:12 am
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OP, at this atage you simply register your appeal, I suggest
under the grounds of Contravention did not occur and Procedural
Impropriety. You add the body of your argument later.
While you're doing this, there's still an aspect of the events
that hasn't been explained as far as I can see. You parked, you
left the car in order to go to the shop to collect the
bathtub..and you then returned empty-handed to photograph the
CEO.
Why?
Where was the bathtub?
#Post#: 51848--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, parked in restricted street, Cranley Road Ilford
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DIR By: mickR
Date: January 4, 2025, 6:29 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
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> there's still an aspect of the events that hasn't been
explained as far as I can see. You parked, you left the car in
order to go to the shop to collect the bathtub..and you then
returned empty-handed to photograph the CEO.
>
> Why?
>
> Where was the bathtub?
>
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> The vehicle was visible from the shops side window and when I
was at the till I saw the CEO and rushed out to move the
vehicle.
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#Post#: 51853--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, parked in restricted street, Cranley Road Ilford
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DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: January 4, 2025, 6:56 am
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Thanks.
OK, this is the OP's version but the council's photos show the
vehicle to be some way from the shop and why would the car need
moving if all that was happening was loading which was a
permitted activity, something which the OP clearly implies
knowledge of based upon their reps.
But we have to go with the OP's account, just so long as they
recognise that what's apparent to us would also likely be to the
adjudicator, and in the context of the CEO's notes.
#Post#: 51859--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, parked in restricted street, Cranley Road Ilford
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DIR By: mickR
Date: January 4, 2025, 7:33 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
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> Thanks.
>
> OK, this is the OP's version but the council's photos show the
vehicle to be some way from the shop
>
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??? the car appears to be parked directly outside the side of
the shop to me.
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