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       #Post#: 62227--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hackney Bus Lane - Hackney Road, no signs
   DIR By: LondonTraveller84
       Date: March 12, 2025, 7:35 pm
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       Sent the formal rep across that Hippocrates suggested, just
       added the following "Lack of advance warning/adequate signage
       when approaching from the side road, further exacerbated due to
       detrimental weather conditions and traffic conditions."
       Although Im a tad bit worried if I've gone past the 28 days (EN
       dated 13th Feb, I believe 28 days was yesterday but I sent it
       right now, 30 past midnight).
       Also the TH website is a bit odd I clicked make formal rep but
       it took me to the same page as a informal rep (see attached), so
       couldn't tell if this will be classed as a formal rep or not :/
       [attachment deleted by admin]
       #Post#: 62251--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hackney Bus Lane - Hackney Road, no signs
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: March 13, 2025, 3:15 am
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       --- Quote from: LondonTraveller84 link ---
       >
       >
       > Also the TH website is a bit odd I clicked make formal rep but
       it took me to the same page as a informal rep (see attached), so
       couldn't tell if this will be classed as a formal rep or not :/
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The form is headed Challenge/Representation
       Challenge is the proper name for informal reps
       Representations are made against ENs and NtOs
       So the same form serves for both kinds.
       #Post#: 62268--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hackney Bus Lane - Hackney Road, no signs
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: March 13, 2025, 5:23 am
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       16th is deadline as deemed served on Monday 17th February.
       #Post#: 62285--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hackney Bus Lane - Hackney Road, no signs
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 13, 2025, 7:33 am
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       --- Quote from: LondonTraveller84 link ---
       >
       > It doesn't seem to say the sign is required or mandatory,
       rather it 'may be' and 'most likely'? or am i being too kind and
       innocent here. Although I do agree with the fact that the sign
       does seem more for the main road, rather then side road.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The guidance here is clear and I think given the layout an
       adjudicator would take a dim view of it not being followed.
       #Post#: 62348--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hackney Bus Lane - Hackney Road, no signs
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: March 13, 2025, 11:29 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > [quote author=LondonTraveller84
       link=topic=4266.msg62021#msg62021 date=1741737751]
       > It doesn't seem to say the sign is required or mandatory,
       rather it 'may be' and 'most likely'? or am i being too kind and
       innocent here. Although I do agree with the fact that the sign
       does seem more for the main road, rather then side road.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The guidance here is clear and I think given the layout an
       adjudicator would take a dim view of it not being followed.
       [/quote]
       Indeed, especially if they cannot explain why they have not
       followed the TSM.
       #Post#: 62430--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hackney Bus Lane - Hackney Road, no signs
   DIR By: LondonTraveller84
       Date: March 13, 2025, 6:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
       >
       > 16th is deadline as deemed served on Monday 17th February.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Date of EN served is 13th on the letter? I assume i would have
       received it a day or two later, but it states from the mentioned
       on the letter - in which case 12th was the deadline :O
       17th is the notice for my other PCN, seperate thread. :)
       #Post#: 62483--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hackney Bus Lane - Hackney Road, no signs
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: March 14, 2025, 7:24 am
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       Weekends are not counted.
       #Post#: 67096--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hackney Bus Lane - Hackney Road, no signs
   DIR By: LondonTraveller84
       Date: April 14, 2025, 1:10 pm
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       Hi All,
       as expected another rejection after the NTO, onto the
       ajudication appeal it goes
       Their response:
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/ShS5w5E
       THis time shall I now reply with further information, and hte
       pictures I had attached showing the angle of the signage and a
       car turning etc?
       #Post#: 67100--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hackney Bus Lane - Hackney Road, no signs
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: April 14, 2025, 1:53 pm
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       No point in replying to them. It is Tribunal time. If you want
       me to represent you please PM me and I will do the rest.
       Received and replied.
       #Post#: 68397--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hackney Bus Lane - Hackney Road, no signs
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: April 24, 2025, 4:17 am
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       Appeal filed.
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