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HORIZON PARKING OVERSTAY @ Tesco PCN
DIR By: Mocede28
Date: December 11, 2024, 4:50 am
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Hi all.
I’ve had great help for one of my recent horizon pcn which is
still in with popla and I’m waiting to hear back.
Here I have had another pcn from horizon Tesco car park for
overstaying. This time in a different vehicle other than the one
currently submitted to popla (personal vehicle). This pcn is for
a business vehicle registered in a business name and business
address. Horizon did not address me the driver or owner. I have
responded to horizon after some diggin within this website and
replied exactly from this thread here:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/horizon-tescos-exceeded-maximum-stay-period/msg34627/#msg34627
However horizon have wrote back to me rejecting my challenge
please see attached pictures of original pcn sent to me and
their rejection.
Thank you for taking your in reading this any help appreciated.
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Re: HORIZON PARKING OVERSTAY @ Tesco PCN
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: December 11, 2024, 5:26 am
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You will need to clarify what you mean a little here.
You say that the vehicle is registered to a business, so
presumably the notice is similarly addressed to the business.
However, the thread you have linked to (from which you said you
drafted an appeal) is worded for submission by an individual -
"I am the keeper" - in whose name did you submit the appeal?
#Post#: 49313--------------------------------------------------
Re: HORIZON PARKING OVERSTAY @ Tesco PCN
DIR By: Mocede28
Date: December 11, 2024, 5:45 am
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I did not provide a name. Silly me
🤦🏼‍♂️
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Re: HORIZON PARKING OVERSTAY @ Tesco PCN
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: December 11, 2024, 5:49 am
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So it's addressed to the business?
We can draft up a POPLA appeal for you - you've some time yet.
I'll try to draft something up within the next few days.
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Re: HORIZON PARKING OVERSTAY @ Tesco PCN
DIR By: Mocede28
Date: December 11, 2024, 5:50 am
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Yes it’s addressed to the business.
Ok thanks.
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Re: HORIZON PARKING OVERSTAY @ Tesco PCN
DIR By: b789
Date: December 11, 2024, 9:45 am
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You’ve shown us the PCN reminder. That is useless. We need to
see the original postal Notice to Keeper (NtK) with all dates
and times showing. Also, what exactly did you put in your
appeal?
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Re: HORIZON PARKING OVERSTAY @ Tesco PCN
DIR By: Mocede28
Date: December 11, 2024, 1:32 pm
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The reminder is the only letter they sent to me. I rang up
horizon about this and they confirmed it’s probably lost in the
post and told me not to worry as I can pay it or challenge it
with that reminder letter and they noted it on their system.
I challenged it with exactly a copy and paste as below from
another thread within this website with the link attached above.
I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking
charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I
will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your
client landowner.
As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL
the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper
of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even
substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no
admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions
can be drawn. Horizon has relied on contract law allegations of
breach against the driver only.
The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
Horizon have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both
a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
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Re: HORIZON PARKING OVERSTAY @ Tesco PCN
DIR By: b789
Date: December 12, 2024, 6:52 am
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But the reminder letter was addressed to a company. The appeal
submitted starts with "I am the keeper...".
So, unless the company is sentient, how can it respond with "I
am the keeper..."?
Before you can appeal to POPLA, who is the appeal rejection
addressed to? You, an individual or to the company?
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Re: HORIZON PARKING OVERSTAY @ Tesco PCN
DIR By: Mocede28
Date: December 12, 2024, 10:18 am
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Since the original pcn and the reminder was addressed to a
business I thought I can reply back from a business owner
perspective and responded as I am the keeper. I really could
think of any other way to respond.
Rejection was addressed as Dear Appellant. It was served to my
email. I’ve attached SS above.
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Re: HORIZON PARKING OVERSTAY @ Tesco PCN
DIR By: Mocede28
Date: December 12, 2024, 10:19 am
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Rejection letter via email I received .
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4262.0;attach=9518;image
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