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       #Post#: 49272--------------------------------------------------
       Bus Lane - salford City Council - a580 east lancashire road
       opposite petrol station
   DIR By: chi
       Date: December 10, 2024, 6:38 pm
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       hi i entered a bus lane bit to early to turn left.
       a580 east lancashire road opposite petrol station (other side
       of road to petrol station)
       markings were quite faded and there was an arrow to turn left
       slightly ahead.
       reg mc56ecd
       just wandering if there is any way to get out.  and thanks in
       advance for all your efforts
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       i showed a pic of where my white car entered
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       and zoom in for street view
       #Post#: 49297--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bus Lane - salford City Council - a580 east lancashire road
       opposite petrol station
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: December 11, 2024, 4:26 am
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       Distance in the bus lane is 39 metres, so rather too much for a
       de minimis argument, I'm afraid.
       On signage, it looks clearly enough marked
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       Re: Bus Lane - salford City Council - a580 east lancashire road
       opposite petrol station
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: December 11, 2024, 4:15 pm
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       [member=524]chi[/member] I will make the usual enquiries in
       respect of the traffic order and the camera certificate, in the
       meantime are you able to confirm if this sign is still in place?
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       Also do you have any arguable mitigation, especially anything
       unrelated to the contravention itself?
       There is an arguable defect on the PCN (they have an old ground
       from the Transport Act 2000 that no longer applies) but on its
       own it's not much to go on.
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       Re: Bus Lane - salford City Council - a580 east lancashire road
       opposite petrol station
   DIR By: chi
       Date: December 11, 2024, 5:54 pm
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       thank you for replying.  i hardly drive down that road so to be
       honest im not sure if the sign is still there but it probably
       is.  from the camera images on
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       />it seems that it may not be there but i imagine it probably
       is.
       not really anything mitigating other than perhaps the white line
       is faded and there is dashed lines appearing over the solid line
       as per the video and images on
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       Re: Bus Lane - salford City Council - a580 east lancashire road
       opposite petrol station
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: December 13, 2024, 12:29 pm
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       Is there any mitigation unrelated to the contravention? Anything
       from ill-health to family problems, financial difficulties,
       problems at work etc?
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       Re: Bus Lane - salford City Council - a580 east lancashire road
       opposite petrol station
   DIR By: chi
       Date: December 14, 2024, 1:31 pm
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       thank you for replying.
       i don't think there are mitigating issues that you have
       mentioned or similar.  the only thing i can think of is that the
       white line is faded and there is dashed lines appearing over the
       solid line
       once again thankyou for your time
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       Re: Bus Lane - salford City Council - a580 east lancashire road
       opposite petrol station
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: December 15, 2024, 8:28 am
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       [member=524]chi[/member] do you have a dashcam, or can you get
       some footage taken by someone sitting in the passenger seat with
       a mobile phone?
       If nothing else we should be able to get a failure to consider,
       I won't get the FOI responses back from the council before
       January and in the meantime we need to put in a representation
       to protect your position.
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       Re: Bus Lane - salford City Council - a580 east lancashire road
       opposite petrol station
   DIR By: chi
       Date: December 15, 2024, 9:47 am
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       thank you sorry no dashcam or mobile footage other than the
       council's cctv footage.
       let me know if i should put in representation or what you would
       like me to put into the representation.  or alternatively i
       think you have my log in information so you could just put it in
       yourself if that is easier.
       i do greatly appreciate your help.
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       Re: Bus Lane - salford City Council - a580 east lancashire road
       opposite petrol station
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: December 15, 2024, 9:56 am
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       Would it be possible for you to pop back and get some footage?
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       Re: Bus Lane - salford City Council - a580 east lancashire road
       opposite petrol station
   DIR By: chi
       Date: December 15, 2024, 9:56 am
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       i don't think so it is quite far away from me
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