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       #Post#: 49238--------------------------------------------------
       TV licence
   DIR By: viper
       Date: December 10, 2024, 1:14 pm
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       We donot own a TV. We donot watch live programs on our devices.
       I let tvl know and have an email from them dated 20th November:
       "address is now registered as No Licence Needed."
       We have now received a letter from them dated 27th November: "as
       you have not responded to our letters yet, you have left us no
       alternative but to proceed with final stages of investigation"
       Where do we go from here?
       #Post#: 49241--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TV license
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: December 10, 2024, 1:35 pm
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       TVLA (the TV Licensing Authority (sic)) had to change their name
       to TVL because they ain't got not authority!
       These are meaningless threatograms from a sausage machine, based
       on an unlawful presumption of guilt - you need to pay us for a
       TV licence unless you satisfy us that you don't, and we'll send
       you increasingly threatening letters until you comply.
       Personally, I struggle to distinguish such practices from
       harassment and aggressive trading practices.
       General advice - just ignore them. However, if you have
       difficulty in ignoring meaningless threatening letters, please
       PM me your home address, I happen to have a bridge that you
       might be interested in buying for a very good price.
       There is a wealth of advice on YT and the internet in general,
       which I would have thought would have been far easier to find
       than we are...
       #Post#: 49265--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TV licence
   DIR By: sparx
       Date: December 10, 2024, 5:20 pm
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       It takes a month plus for them to get their systems into order
       it would seem.
       A top tip - do not register an iPlayer account with the same
       email you have used for your no-licence needed declaration. If
       you do, and you use it, even elsewhere, they will email you and
       threaten you that "You have been watching iPlayer in breach of
       your no-licence needed declaration".
       If you then SAR the BBC for the iPlayer records, they even know
       what "City" you've been watching from from your IP Address,
       hilarious when it's the other side of the country and they've
       not done anything more than "Email A = Email B" THEY MUST BE
       WATCHING.
       #Post#: 49276--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TV licence
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: December 10, 2024, 7:06 pm
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       My partner kept getting the threatograms when she moved here 10
       years ago. I told her to write back saying she doesn't have a
       TV, which she doesn't, and neither of us worked out how to get
       live TV on computers. For 3 years she got threatograms, having
       to register as no licence required. That didn't stop the threats
       of detector vans coming round, personal visits from enforcement
       officers etc. To date nobody has been round.
       Neither of us had any real need to watch TV so never got one
       until earlier this year when I bought one. I still can't fathom
       out how the damned thing should work. I've manged to get some of
       the historic comedy shows on a couple of channels but it's such
       a faff trying to get to them easily the TV has been put away
       again. I really don't miss it at all.
       #Post#: 49337--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TV licence
   DIR By: dave-o
       Date: December 11, 2024, 7:25 am
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       I'm just wondering if "detector vans" really have any purpose
       now that most people receive TV through a cable.  Or is it just
       something that sounds threatening but doesn't actually happen?
       #Post#: 49339--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TV licence
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: December 11, 2024, 7:41 am
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       There's only 2 of them to cover the entire country. I doubt the
       tech is there to know what channel you're watching.
       #Post#: 49401--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TV licence
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: December 11, 2024, 1:25 pm
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       --- Quote from: viper link ---
       > Where do we go from here?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       how about..
       write back to TV licencing say you are putting them on notice
       you do not own a TV or watch live TV. therefore under their own
       rules you do not require a licence.
       you are removing any implied right for any of their staff
       entering your property including any land. Any attempt to enter
       will be considered  trespass.
       Further contact or demands for money will be considered as
       harassment.
       anyone agree?
       #Post#: 49564--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TV licence
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: December 12, 2024, 2:54 pm
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       Yep, my partner done that as it's her house. :) No more hassle.
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