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#Post#: 49524--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hammersmith & Fulham, 12S: Parked in a residents or
shared parking space BUT IT WAS A SINGLE YELLOW LINE, Michael Ro
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 12, 2024, 10:03 am
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Well, trouble is , time is flying by. As councils normally
reject all informal reps there is no point in going into too
much detail with an informal challenge. Detail is what goes into
the formal representation against a Notice to Owner.
Why not send in something like this: -
Dear Sirs
Re PCN <number> dated <dd/mm/yyyy served at <location>
I deny responsibility for the above PCN on the basis that the
contravention did not occur. The car was not parked in a
residents' or shared use parking place when the PCN was served.
#Post#: 49531--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hammersmith & Fulham, 12S: Parked in a residents or
shared parking space BUT IT WAS A SINGLE YELLOW LINE, Michael Ro
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 12, 2024, 10:36 am
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I understand the sentiment, but faced with such a defence the
authority would simply refer to the CEO's notes and without them
having anything to question the latter would IMO be bound to
reject.
If you can revisit and get the proof needed - to count back
along the hoarding to a position just in front of your car and
then take photos - you could, hopefully, prove and not just
assert your defence.
PCN issued 8 Dec. End of 14-day period 21 Dec.
Can you get there in time?
#Post#: 49554--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hammersmith & Fulham, 12S: Parked in a residents or
shared parking space BUT IT WAS A SINGLE YELLOW LINE, Michael Ro
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 12, 2024, 1:13 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> I understand the sentiment, but faced with such a defence the
authority would simply refer to the CEO's notes and without them
having anything to question the latter would IMO be bound to
reject.
>
> If you can revisit and get the proof needed - to count back
along the hoarding to a position just in front of your car and
then take photos - you could, hopefully, prove and not just
assert your defence.
>
> PCN issued 8 Dec. End of 14-day period 21 Dec.
>
> Can you get there in time?
>
--- End Quote ---
They will reject no matter what is sent. I doubt the CEO's notes
will be read at all.
#Post#: 50456--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hammersmith & Fulham, 12S: Parked in a residents or
shared parking space BUT IT WAS A SINGLE YELLOW LINE, Michael Ro
DIR By: poklepi
Date: December 19, 2024, 7:01 am
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HC Andersen,
As you can see, the parking bay ends approximately halfway at
the tenth panel, where the single yellow line begins. I’ve
included a comparison image, which you can view here:
HTML https://imgur.com/SzP7k4f.
By comparing the two images, it’s evident that my vehicle was
parked entirely outside the parking bay and on the single yellow
line. The position can be clearly determined by observing the
white line and the car’s placement in relation to the panels.
The rest of the images are available here:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/S3smQOL.
What are your thoughts?
#Post#: 50713--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hammersmith & Fulham, 12S: Parked in a residents or
shared parking space BUT IT WAS A SINGLE YELLOW LINE, Michael Ro
DIR By: poklepi
Date: December 21, 2024, 5:21 pm
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I submitted the following today:
Re: PCN HZ78003061 dated 08/12/2024, served at Michael Road
To whom it may concern,
I am writing to formally challenge the above-mentioned PCN on
the grounds
that the alleged contravention did not occur. The vehicle was
not parked in a
residents' or shared-use parking bay when the PCN was issued.
I have attached photographic evidence comparing the position of
the vehicle.
By analyzing both the images taken by the Civil Enforcement
Officer (CEO)
and subsequent images taken of the vehicle in the same location,
it is clear
that the vehicle was parked entirely outside the parking bay and
on a single
yellow line.
To provide further clarity:
1.Position in Relation to the Parking Bay:
Upon increasing the brightness and adjusting other parameters of
the CEO’s
images, the white line marking the boundary of the parking bay
is visible in the
lower-left corner.
The position of the vehicle, as shown in both the CEO's
photographs and my
own, confirms that the vehicle was parked outside the parking
bay.
2.Reference to Surrounding Landmarks:
The placement of the car relative to the adjacent wooden panels
and the
residential building across the street further supports the fact
that the vehicle
was outside the parking bay, stopped on a single yellow line.
From the images, it can be seen that the parking bay ends
approximately
halfway along the tenth wooden panel. Both the CEO’s and my own
photographs show the vehicle at this location, further
confirming it was not
within the parking bay.
Given this evidence, it is clear that the PCN issued under Code
12S is
incorrect. The vehicle was temporarily stopped on a single
yellow line and not
within a residents' or shared-use parking bay.
I kindly request that this PCN be cancelled based on the
provided evidence.
#Post#: 52836--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hammersmith & Fulham, 12S: Parked in a residents or
shared parking space BUT IT WAS A SINGLE YELLOW LINE, Michael Ro
DIR By: poklepi
Date: January 10, 2025, 8:17 am
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Hey all,
I wanted to provide an update. On 27/12/2024, I received a
letter confirming that the PCN has been "withdrawn due to a
technical error. This error occurred when the details of the
contravention were recorded."
They tried and did not succeed this time :)
Thanks again for all your help and advice!
#Post#: 52838--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hammersmith & Fulham, 12S: Parked in a residents or
shared parking space BUT IT WAS A SINGLE YELLOW LINE, Michael Ro
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 10, 2025, 8:19 am
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Well done.
#Post#: 52841--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hammersmith & Fulham, 12S: Parked in a residents or
shared parking space BUT IT WAS A SINGLE YELLOW LINE, Michael Ro
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 10, 2025, 8:36 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> Well done.
>
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+1
#Post#: 52842--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hammersmith & Fulham, 12S: Parked in a residents or
shared parking space BUT IT WAS A SINGLE YELLOW LINE, Michael Ro
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: January 10, 2025, 8:39 am
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Ditto.
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