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       #Post#: 5076--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Totting up or potential ban?
   DIR By: unknowndriver
       Date: September 13, 2023, 12:09 pm
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       --- Quote from: M60NJP link ---
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       > WRITE!! This is closing in on court so written records matter!
       Never assume what is said in a phone call (which could be only
       with as call handler) has any real basis.
       >
       > The options above aren't about the chances of success, they're
       about your attitude to risk.
       >
       > 1. Is fairly benign and there's no real risk in asking for
       clarity (provided you act quickly, politely etc)
       > 2. Is a 'confession' of guilt for 1/2 the charges soa 50/50
       option
       > 3. Is the fight it to the wire option with costs etc hanging
       over you if you lose
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       > Me? I'd get a letter away NOW, copy kept with proof of posting
       (option 1.) as there's no real downside if the timing works.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       For option 1, could i please get some help with the wording as i
       am not sure what i can ask/say it in a way that they may drop
       this or provide a reason for the charges relating to the same
       driving category
       If the charges are addressed to me after being stopped and
       giving my details, wouldnt that somewhat count as a
       'confession'?
       I would like to avoid the last option if the costs will increase
       by a lot more than now
       #Post#: 5100--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Totting up or potential ban?
   DIR By: guest46
       Date: September 14, 2023, 1:53 am
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       The content for option one is in The Rookie's post above! Just
       'fluff' it a bit. You are asking for clarity.
       Being charged isn't a confession - unless you did....AFTER being
       charged? Did you?
       Provided you engage in the correspondence before any set time
       limits, option 3 won't kick in.
       #Post#: 5118--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Totting up or potential ban?
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: September 14, 2023, 7:05 am
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       --- Quote from: unknowndriver link ---
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       > For option 1, could i please get some help with the wording as
       i am not sure what i can ask/say
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I would suggest NOT coming over all 'barrack room lawyer' but
       instead coming over 'bemused/confused'.
       Something along the lines of
       Dear Sir/Madam,
       On DD/MM/YY I received a COFP (REF XXXXX) for driving without
       due consideration relating to an incident on DD/MM/YY.
       While still considering whether to accept this, on DD/MM/YY I
       received a second COFP (REF XXXXX) for careless driving arising
       from the exact same incident.
       My understanding is that this must be an error as I shouldn't be
       being sent to COFP for what is one alleged offence with one set
       of facts.  Can you please clarify why I have been sent to COFPs
       as this is obviously very confusing and upsetting.
       Yours Faithfully
       UKD
       Obviously insert nos and dates...
       #Post#: 5130--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Totting up or potential ban?
   DIR By: guest111
       Date: September 14, 2023, 8:22 am
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       --- Quote from: The Rookie link ---
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       > [quote author=unknowndriver link=topic=422.msg5076#msg5076
       date=1694624986]
       > For option 1, could i please get some help with the wording as
       i am not sure what i can ask/say
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I would suggest NOT coming over all 'barrack room lawyer' but
       instead coming over 'bemused/confused'.
       Something along the lines of
       Dear Sir/Madam,
       On DD/MM/YY I received a COFP (REF XXXXX) for driving without
       due consideration relating to an incident on DD/MM/YY.
       While still considering whether to accept this, on DD/MM/YY I
       received a second COFP (REF XXXXX) for careless driving arising
       from the exact same incident.
       My understanding is that this must be an error as I shouldn't be
       being sent two COFP for what is one alleged offence with one set
       of facts.  Can you please clarify why I have been sent two COFPs
       as this is obviously very confusing and upsetting.
       Yours Faithfully
       UKD
       Obviously insert nos and dates...
       [/quote]
       Sorry to be picky but the salient point here is that the OP has
       received two COFPs, so the word "two" really needs to be
       correct.  I bolded the two errors.  It's a bit confusing
       otherwise.
       #Post#: 5142--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Totting up or potential ban?
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: September 14, 2023, 9:19 am
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       Indeed, thanks for that.
       #Post#: 5259--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Totting up or potential ban?
   DIR By: unknowndriver
       Date: September 16, 2023, 7:24 am
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       I have posted the letter yesterday with the help of what to
       write, also gave copies of both COFP. I have proof of postage.
       I assume that in about a weeks time the 28 days for the first
       COFP ( dated 25th August) will come to the end of it, will i get
       a response back about my letter before then or should i call up
       and explain so they can extend the 28 days by a few days more?
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