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#Post#: 57626--------------------------------------------------
Re: CODE 01 Medway Clover Street Chatham Delivering food for the
Homeless
DIR By: El-Roi
Date: February 11, 2025, 9:19 am
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Thanks.
Formal Representation made online.
Acceptance page printed and saved on laptop
#Post#: 57652--------------------------------------------------
Re: CODE 01 Medway Clover Street Chatham Delivering food for the
Homeless
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: February 11, 2025, 10:30 am
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--- Quote from: El-Roi link ---
>
> ..............
> Please can someone confirm the last day of submission? I don't
want to miss it.
> I make it the 12th Feb ( 28 days from date served 15.01.25 ;
posting date 13.01.25 served 2nd working day after posting).
> ..............
>
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For when this comes up in the future, it's 28 days beginning
with the date of service.
So:
13/01/2025 = Monday = Date of NTO and presumed date of posting
15/01/2025 = Wednesday = 2nd working day after posting = deemed
date of service = day 1 of 28 day relevant period
11/02/2025 = Tuesday = day 28 of 28 day relevant period
If you submitted today then you will be on the last day but
within time.
#Post#: 65032--------------------------------------------------
Re: CODE 01 Medway Clover Street Chatham Delivering food for the
Homeless
DIR By: El-Roi
Date: March 31, 2025, 1:03 pm
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Please, I need some advice on how to respond to this email sent
on 26th March 2025 requesting for delivery Invoice on a
letter-headed paper regarding this PCN.
I do not have a letter-headed invoice. I was delivering cooked
food free of charge to a church that was feeding the homeless,
as stated in my appeal and on this forum. I am confused that
they are asking for a delivery invoice now. I am confused as to
how or where I can get an invoice for free home cooked food for
the homeless.
Thanks in advance for your input
Date: 26th March 2025
PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE: MW92094257
I refer to your recent appeal regarding the above Penalty Charge
Notice.
To enable this matter to be given further consideration please
forward a copy of the delivery note/invoice in respect of the
delivery/collection of goods you state you were making on the
day in question, failing this a company headed letter would be
accepted.
Please submit this documentation to the Parking Section of
Medway Council at the above address within 7 days of the date of
this letter in order to prevent further action being taken. If
however you are not able to provide this proof I would ask you
to make arrangements for payment of the outstanding amount due
within 14 days of the date of this letter.
The rejection is indeed correct in that without being seen to be
unloading or loading in the given observation period as this is
zero tolerance area outside of the loading times, you would need
to be seen as it is required to be continuous.
Please note the Parking Office has the facility to accept
payments by Credit/Debit/Switch/Delta cards on 01634 332266 or
by using the automatic payments system on 01634 334477, or pay
online at www.medway.gov.uk
Yours sincerely,
G.GX
Medway Council
#Post#: 65036--------------------------------------------------
Re: CODE 01 Medway Clover Street Chatham Delivering food for the
Homeless
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: March 31, 2025, 1:12 pm
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I'd respond as follows:
Thank you for your email dated 26 March.
I think that the authority's misunderstanding of the law should
not be visited upon keepers and drivers going about their
legitimate business. Please deal with my representations as
submitted and if you reject then we will let an adjudicator
discover exactly what's what within your organisation.
Regards,
***
Do not play their stupid, ignorant and bullying game, you'll get
all het up, as you are now.
#Post#: 65045--------------------------------------------------
Re: CODE 01 Medway Clover Street Chatham Delivering food for the
Homeless
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: March 31, 2025, 1:41 pm
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EDIT, crossed with HCA
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Pepipoo had an emoji for hitting head on brick wall, but this
>:( will have to do.
AS I said much earlier, what muppets are working for Medway.
Rant over (must confess to a psrticular interest in this
location - I once lived on Clover Street - had to move when
Chatham Council had a CPO and demolished the houses).
Keep calm and carry on - you have a v.good case. It might be
worth asking Emmaus for a note on headed paper along the lines
of To whom it may concern. We confirm that Nn was delivering
large and bulky items donated to our Food Bank at the above
address. (signed) XYZ.
I'd go with HCA's advice and keep any letter you may obtain in
reserve.
#Post#: 65049--------------------------------------------------
Re: CODE 01 Medway Clover Street Chatham Delivering food for the
Homeless
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: March 31, 2025, 1:54 pm
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People do of course invent stuff to try and get out of PCNs but
the idea that someone would fabricate a food delivery for the
homeless to a church hall at Christmas really is Medway taking
the mick.
If they'd asked nicely I expect you can produce an email and/or
a witness statement from the organiser, which I guess we should
have anticipated. You still can of course at this stage if you
wish.
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Re: CODE 01 Medway Clover Street Chatham Delivering food for the
Homeless
DIR By: ManxTom
Date: March 31, 2025, 2:49 pm
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I wasn't sure from the OP's account whether he was just
delivering food to the church or making a donation of food.
I see in reply #26 that the OP seems to be clearly saying that
he was making a donation and not simply delivering.
I think it would be unreasonable of the LA to expect an invoice
or any other sort of paperwork to support a donation. People
don't make charitable donations in the expectation of getting a
receipt or some sort of written recognition.
Unfortunately the OP's representations don't make it clear that
he was donating and not merely delivering. I suspect the LA
understands this to be some sort of normal delivery of goods
purchased specifically for delivery to the church and that it
can be evidenced by paperwork.
Does the OP need to spell out that it was a donation for which
there is - obviously - no supporting documentation?
#Post#: 65059--------------------------------------------------
Re: CODE 01 Medway Clover Street Chatham Delivering food for the
Homeless
DIR By: ManxTom
Date: March 31, 2025, 2:52 pm
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Duplicate post
#Post#: 65312--------------------------------------------------
Re: CODE 01 Medway Clover Street Chatham Delivering food for the
Homeless
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: April 2, 2025, 1:23 am
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OP, you posted the following before (I assume) you knew anything
about the intricacies of process and what we sometimes find here
which is that history gets rewritten by OPs in light of the
exceptions and exemptions which we dangle in their way:
It was my first time dropping off food. I was on my own. I did
two trips from my car to the centre. There was a bit of delay
when I went in initially as they were just about to start
sharing and the centre was already full with homeless people.
They also transferred the hot food to their own container which
took some time. They were expecting me but the time wasn’t
confirmed. We had a window to drop off the food during which
they can make the re-distribution We were making a personal
voluntary contribution. We bought discounted and yellow sticker
items from the supermarket ( some receipts available) friends
and family donated items and the rest was home-made food. There
was no paperwork / invoice as it was a personal /family gift
donation because of the good work The centre was are doing.
Majority of the homeless people that hang around the high street
go there to get hot food. As a family we regularly buy
discounted / yellow sticker items to a give to Homeless
individuals including AMAT Residents in Chatham, guys hanging
around in the town centre or supermarket entrances begging,
struggling parents, single parents, elderly or struggling
neighbours who have lost their Job loss or sick etc. It’s just
helping the community. I have old text message offering food to
struggling people and neighbours.
There's only one credible story here, and it's yours.
Carry on, in which regard I refer to my last post.
#Post#: 65432--------------------------------------------------
Re: CODE 01 Medway Clover Street Chatham Delivering food for the
Homeless
DIR By: El-Roi
Date: April 2, 2025, 10:24 am
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Thanks, HCA. Brilliant email response as always!
Just a quick check—do you think your no-nonsense response might
put their backs up and make them say, “Let’s go to the
independent adjudicator”?
I was just being sarcastic, not getting worked up or playing
along with their ridiculous game and bullying tactics. It’s
clear they realized their initial rejection was wrong and were
just talking nonsense—now they’re trying it on again.
I’ll reply to the email as per your draft and maybe just add
that this is a donation (free of charge), so there is no
associated invoice or delivery note.
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