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TFL - Burdett Road, E3 - red route (blue badge holder)
DIR By: TwistedEdge
Date: December 6, 2024, 7:42 am
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Hello again,
Just had this from TFL - I honestly cannot remember the reason
for stopping here; it was probably very brief and may have been
related to the nearby Tesco - but that doesn't make perfect
sense as I have no memory of visiting the shop.
I'm currently trying to wrack my brains to remember what the
actual circumstances were - I'll check my google timeline
shortly to see what else I was doing.
I am a blue badge holder, and as far as I am aware, stopping on
a red route is permissible under certain circumstances -
As you will see in the images, the car lights were on, along
with the stereo head unit - which suggests the engine was still
running.
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Link to streetview, although (from looking at the background) it
may have been a little further south...
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Re: TFL - Burdett Road, E3 - red route (blue badge holder)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 6, 2024, 12:58 pm
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Photo shows you on a double-red line on a route controlled by
Transport for London. I don't know what the regulations are for
BB holders on double-red lines, so hopefully somebody will be
along soon who knows. YOu could also look at your instructions
for use of a BB, issued to you when you were granted one.
However, if this website is correct, the PCN has been correctly
served.
HTML https://www.disabledmotoring.org/blue-badge/blue-badge-in-london#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20exemption%20for,permitted%20during%20off%20peak%20times.
#Post#: 48771--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Burdett Road, E3 - red route (blue badge holder)
DIR By: TwistedEdge
Date: December 7, 2024, 9:52 am
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I remembered what I was doing there now - not actually parked,
but trying to drop someone off, hence my lights on and engine
running. Incidentally she also happens to be a blue-badge
holder, but she didn't have her own car that day.
I tried to get into the marked bay but there was a truck
unloading or something, so I paused for a bit to consider what
to do and eventually took her to a different Tesco.
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Re: TFL - Burdett Road, E3 - red route (blue badge holder)
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: December 7, 2024, 11:12 am
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Wikipedia
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_route#:~:text=Red%20routes%20are%20major%20roads,the%20holders%20of%20blue%20badges).<br
/>suggests that there is a boarding / alighting exemption for
licensed taxis and blue badge holders.
You haven't posted the PCN, please post that up redacting only
your name and address.
When you submit representations include a copy of both sides of
your friend's blue badge. However from your own description of
events you didn't engage in any boarding or alighting. You
pulled over with an intention to alight your passenger and to
then park in the parking bay in front of you. The bay was
blocked so you went elsewhere.
There must be a video, I suggest you request the video from TFL
and post it up, so we can have a look at the sequence of events.
TFL videos aren't on the their website. Don't miss the deadlines
to submit representations waiting for the video. And try to get
your representation submitted to TFL before the 14 day discount
window expires.
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Re: TFL - Burdett Road, E3 - red route (blue badge holder)
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 7, 2024, 11:36 am
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As I understand it:
You stopped but did not alight or board a passenger, therefore
there is no exemption.
That you intended to but didn't goes to mitigation only.
HTML https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes/exemptions
Red lines: You can stop on these to pick up and drop off blue
badge holders but you'll need to move on quickly
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Re: TFL - Burdett Road, E3 - red route (blue badge holder)
DIR By: TwistedEdge
Date: December 7, 2024, 9:09 pm
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--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
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> You haven't posted the PCN, please post that up redacting only
your name and address.
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It's in the opening post. The PCN has three photos showing I was
there for just over two minutes.
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