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#Post#: 48558--------------------------------------------------
Westminster Council - parked in restricted street during
prescribed hours
DIR By: iispartan
Date: December 6, 2024, 2:36 am
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Hi all, my brother received a PCN at 1.48am on Brewer Street and
my guess is he assumed that after these hours he could park
here. I’ll get the details as to why etc later but looking at
the council images I can’t see any signage to say he could park.
I do see DYL in the images however.
I would appreciate if I can get an initial view of whether there
is scope to challenge this based on any fatal errors on the PCN
or based on no signage being taken of the restrictions -
appreciate any help.
Pictures of PCN and evidence here -
HTML https://imgur.com/a/iuEJcTF
#Post#: 48562--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westminster Council - parked in restricted street during
prescribed hours
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: December 6, 2024, 4:00 am
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I suspect you need to get your brother a copy of the Highway
Code
HTML https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/download-pdf.html
and point him
at the section of Double Yellow Lines...... :(
DYLs operate 24/7 and need no signage.
That said, please post a GSV link to the location.
#Post#: 48592--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westminster Council - parked in restricted street during
prescribed hours
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 6, 2024, 5:51 am
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Why did your brother park there ? There are two exemptions from
yellow lines, loading and also boarding/alighting passengers.
#Post#: 48608--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westminster Council - parked in restricted street during
prescribed hours
DIR By: iispartan
Date: December 6, 2024, 6:39 am
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All fair questions probably assumed after hours was okay to stop
there. Probably accepting that this is bang to rights but still
worth a shot ..
Nevertheless, GSV link here:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/kzvVFYwk97LgFDcU7?g_st=ic
#Post#: 48666--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westminster Council - parked in restricted street during
prescribed hours
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 6, 2024, 12:01 pm
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--- Quote from: iispartan link ---
>
> All fair questions probably assumed after hours was okay to
stop there. Probably accepting that this is bang to rights but
still worth a shot ..
>
> Nevertheless, GSV link here:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/kzvVFYwk97LgFDcU7?g_st=ic
>
--- End Quote ---
If neither of the exempt activities was being undertaken, then
the contravention is made out. HOwever, there may be a
'technical' appeal based on poor council management of the
enforcement process, so wait a bit for others to comment before
making a decision to pay or submit representations.
#Post#: 48670--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westminster Council - parked in restricted street during
prescribed hours
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 6, 2024, 12:20 pm
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OP, luckily for you Westminster will re-offer the discount even
if unsuccessful reps are made provided these are made no later
than 19th, so nothing's to be lost by making simple 'I'm sorry,
honestly didn't think my short stop at this hour would warrant a
penalty....' reps, or whatever other form he wants to make.
#Post#: 51577--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westminster Council - parked in restricted street during
prescribed hours
DIR By: iispartan
Date: January 1, 2025, 7:30 am
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Happy New Year all - I’ve just received response from council. I
basically made a quick appeal on the lines of “apologies…I
didn’t realise my short stay would warrant such penalty etc..”
Let me know if any grounds for appeal, otherwise I think I’ll
just take the discount..
HTML https://imgur.com/a/oFCTudP
Thanks
#Post#: 51715--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westminster Council - parked in restricted street during
prescribed hours
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: January 2, 2025, 5:53 pm
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[member=751]iispartan[/member] that's only an informal
rejection, if you wait for the Notice to Owner and make a
further challenge within 14 days, Westminster will normally
reoffer the discount anyway, so there's limited risk in giving
it a go.
One simple route to success is that Westminster has recently
been neglecting to provide any traffic orders in its parking
cases, in which case it's an easy win. Quite a few of their
traffic orders are wrong, if you're happy to wait for the NTO
I'll check if the restrictions are properly enforceable.
#Post#: 51961--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westminster Council - parked in restricted street during
prescribed hours
DIR By: iispartan
Date: January 5, 2025, 5:40 am
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[member=1]cp8759[/member] If you’re positive they’ll re-offer
the discount then I’m happy to wait for NTO and challenge
#Post#: 51970--------------------------------------------------
Re: Westminster Council - parked in restricted street during
prescribed hours
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: January 5, 2025, 6:07 am
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my brother received a PCN
I basically made a quick appeal
I’m happy to wait for NTO and challenge
Can we sort out who's who pl?
Your brother was driving.
Who is the registered keeper(RK) and are their DVLA keeper
details current(the NTO would be sent to the RK)
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