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       #Post#: 48312--------------------------------------------------
       London Congestion Charge Zone - penalty charge for not going
       past the sign?
   DIR By: Sidney16
       Date: December 4, 2024, 12:33 pm
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       I was following Waze directions on my journey back from
       Greenwich when the satnav told me to take a left onto Harper Rd,
       even though I'd set Waze to avoid the CCZ. As soon as I turned
       the wheel I realised it was a CCZ road, and I braked to a stop
       before turning back onto the main road. I stopped before going
       over the C sign on Harper Road, or past the warning signpost. As
       I didn't go past the signage and was only a couple of metres
       into the road I didn't think that counted as going into the CCZ
       so didn't pay the fee. I've now had a penalty charge notice. Do
       I have any grounds to appeal?
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       Re: London Congestion Charge Zone - penalty charge for not going
       past the sign?
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: December 4, 2024, 12:55 pm
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       For meaningful advice please to have a read of
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
       and post here all sides of the PCN, redacting only yr name &
       address, with a GSV link to the location.
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       Re: London Congestion Charge Zone - penalty charge for not going
       past the sign?
   DIR By: Sidney16
       Date: December 4, 2024, 1:16 pm
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       The PCN images are here
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/XanCaUI
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       Re: London Congestion Charge Zone - penalty charge for not going
       past the sign?
   DIR By: Sidney16
       Date: December 4, 2024, 1:20 pm
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       This is the Google street view
  HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4941441,-0.0928149,3a,75y,6.08h,83.73t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sgVl4nslsVuNPCa5t1kyS0Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.274305182520209%26panoid%3DgVl4nslsVuNPCa5t1kyS0Q%26yaw%3D6.078175833165972!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIwMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
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       Re: London Congestion Charge Zone - penalty charge for not going
       past the sign?
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: December 4, 2024, 2:05 pm
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       The photo on the PCN shows you car beside the dotted raised kerb
       stones, which are well past the sign and "C" on the road.
       #Post#: 48343--------------------------------------------------
       Re: London Congestion Charge Zone - penalty charge for not going
       past the sign?
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: December 4, 2024, 2:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: mickR link ---
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       > The photo on the PCN shows you car beside the dotted raised
       kerb stones, which are well past the sign and "C" on the road.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, I have to agree, so the OP's recollection of his distance
       into the zone is mistaken.
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       Re: London Congestion Charge Zone - penalty charge for not going
       past the sign?
   DIR By: Sidney16
       Date: December 4, 2024, 4:25 pm
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       Thank you both, yes I see what you mean. I think I must have
       been thinking about another road, and I didn't even notice that
       this one was in the zone (looks like cars were parked on the
       left over the C on the road).
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       Re: London Congestion Charge Zone - penalty charge for not going
       past the sign?
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: December 4, 2024, 4:39 pm
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       welcome to Londonistan !
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       Re: London Congestion Charge Zone - penalty charge for not going
       past the sign?
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: December 4, 2024, 5:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: Sidney16 link ---
       >
       > Thank you both, yes I see what you mean. I think I must have
       been thinking about another road, and I didn't even notice that
       this one was in the zone (looks like cars were parked on the
       left over the C on the road).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So, having turned into this road, what did you do next, carry on
       down the road ?
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       Re: London Congestion Charge Zone - penalty charge for not going
       past the sign?
   DIR By: Sidney16
       Date: December 5, 2024, 3:09 am
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       So, having turned into this road, what did you do next, carry on
       down the road ?
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       I'm really not sure. There was definitely one road that I
       briefly turned into and then stopped, as per my original post,
       as I had a conversation about it at the time with my daughter
       who was also in the car. Having seen the photo on the PCN though
       it can't have been this road, as it clearly shows me by the kerb
       markers. I can only assume that the PCN is not for the road I
       first described but for a 2nd road that I drove all the way up
       without even seeing the CCZ signage.
       Thanks to everyone who read and responded to my post  :)
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