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#Post#: 47872--------------------------------------------------
Multiple PCN's in a car park 'controlled' by Excel Parking
Services.
DIR By: Hroogar
Date: December 2, 2024, 8:43 am
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I know of a person that has been through mediation with one of
the adjudication services offered by Excel Parking Services and
have also read the post dated 23rd October 2024 from A.N.OTHER
regarding the same site.
The person I have spoken with, is going to check, but believes
they have received a letter of claim from EPS for alleged
contraventions that occurred in respect of this nonsense 5
minute rule they try on.
They have been through a mediation but could not recall whether
or not it was IAS or one of the other biased services available
for these operators. They will check later and I have asked
them to post up in the hope that you can help them.
I've told them not to hold their breath now that it appears to
have gone this far but I am hoping that until Excel place it
before a court that hope is not completely lost.
They have been approached by some TV programmes about their
experience so I have advised them to sit tight for now until
they get advice from this excellent resource. I fear that a TV
presenter asking a seemingly innocent question could potentially
cause some issue further down the line.
They have retained all documentation and proof of payments for
these PCN's which were early 2023!
They have also already paid one PCN to 'get them off their
back'. Maybe if it goes to court the judge may award a refund
too... :D
Just trying to get some preliminary advice as to what they
should post up with some many PCN's issued.
I've advised them to read the necessary guidelines prior to
posting too.
#Post#: 47873--------------------------------------------------
Re: Multiple PCN's in a car park 'controlled' by Excel Parking
Services.
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: December 2, 2024, 9:03 am
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Is this person Ms. Hudson? Woman's £1,906 bill over five-minute
parking rule
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/news-press-articles/woman's-1-906-bill-over-five-minute-parking-rule/
We'll need to know detail of the case - as a starting point,
exactly what stage of the process they are up to. Ideally, they
should provide a timeline, detailing exactly what they received
when, with exactly dates, and any correspondence they sent,
again with dates. If their argument is that they paid, but just
paid outside of the 5 minutes Excel allow, they should also
confirm to us that they have proof of payment for each parking
session they received a PCN for, and that their payment covered
the duration of the parking period covered by the PCN.
#Post#: 47877--------------------------------------------------
Re: Multiple PCN's in a car park 'controlled' by Excel Parking
Services.
DIR By: Hroogar
Date: December 2, 2024, 9:21 am
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This has been passed on to the party concerned and I've also
PM'd you.
#Post#: 47879--------------------------------------------------
Re: Multiple PCN's in a car park 'controlled' by Excel Parking
Services.
DIR By: b789
Date: December 2, 2024, 9:32 am
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They'll never get a refund for the first PCN they paid. Paying
it is an admission of liability and weakens their otherwise good
case for defending.
Any "mediation" they may have been through prior to receiving an
actual N1SDT Claim Form from the CNBC is unlikely to be anything
official. It will only have been an appeal to the kangaroo court
that is the IAS which is anything but "independent".
The only way that this will be concluded is through the only
truly independent dispute resolution service, the small claims
track of the county court. WE can advise and provide templates
or even bespoke defences against scammers such as Excel or their
sister company VCS.
The 5 minute rule that was mentioned and has recently been in
the press, is an unenforceable "penalty" in contract law. There
is ample defence in that alone but if you include the Consumer
Rights Act 2015, it becomes even stronger.
#Post#: 47880--------------------------------------------------
Re: Multiple PCN's in a car park 'controlled' by Excel Parking
Services.
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: December 2, 2024, 9:35 am
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> Any "mediation" they may have been through prior to receiving
an actual N1SDT Claim Form from the CNBC is unlikely to be
anything official.
>
--- End Quote ---
For clarity, this is the case I referred to above - the news
article suggests a claim form has been received. We need to see
exactly what stage we're up to here.
#Post#: 48116--------------------------------------------------
Re: Multiple PCN's in a car park 'controlled' by Excel Parking
Services.
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: December 3, 2024, 2:13 pm
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> Is this person Ms. Hudson? Woman's £1,906 bill over
five-minute parking rule
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/news-press-articles/woman's-1-906-bill-over-five-minute-parking-rule/
>
--- End Quote ---
No, Ms. Hudson is now legally represented off-forum.
#Post#: 48117--------------------------------------------------
Re: Multiple PCN's in a car park 'controlled' by Excel Parking
Services.
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: December 3, 2024, 2:15 pm
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--- Quote from: Hroogar link ---
>
> Just trying to get some preliminary advice as to what they
should post up with some many PCN's issued.
>
--- End Quote ---
As I understand it DWMB2 has written everything you need to know
in the PPC guide
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/.
#Post#: 48125--------------------------------------------------
Re: Multiple PCN's in a car park 'controlled' by Excel Parking
Services.
DIR By: b789
Date: December 3, 2024, 2:49 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> [quote author=DWMB2 link=topic=4106.msg47873#msg47873
date=1733151807]
> Is this person Ms. Hudson? Woman's £1,906 bill over
five-minute parking rule
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/news-press-articles/woman's-1-906-bill-over-five-minute-parking-rule/
>
--- End Quote ---
No, Ms. Hudson is now legally represented off-forum.
[/quote]
Hopefully by Mr Jackson Yamba at Contestor Legal
HTML https://www.contestorlegal.co.uk
.
#Post#: 48139--------------------------------------------------
Re: Multiple PCN's in a car park 'controlled' by Excel Parking
Services.
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: December 3, 2024, 3:43 pm
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> [quote author=cp8759 link=topic=4106.msg48116#msg48116
date=1733256814]
> [quote author=DWMB2 link=topic=4106.msg47873#msg47873
date=1733151807]
> Is this person Ms. Hudson? Woman's £1,906 bill over
five-minute parking rule
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/news-press-articles/woman's-1-906-bill-over-five-minute-parking-rule/
>
--- End Quote ---
No, Ms. Hudson is now legally represented off-forum.
[/quote]
Hopefully by Mr Jackson Yamba at Contestor Legal
HTML https://www.contestorlegal.co.uk
.
[/quote]
That’s an interesting set up.
#Post#: 48143--------------------------------------------------
Re: Multiple PCN's in a car park 'controlled' by Excel Parking
Services.
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: December 3, 2024, 3:47 pm
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To save me searching, is Mr Yamba the poacher turned gamekeeper
who knew that most of the PPC PoCs were bollox because he wrote
them?
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