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Southwark 50r contravention - prohibited right turn
DIR By: shaoxter
Date: December 2, 2024, 8:21 am
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Hi guys,
I received a PCN for making a prohibited right turn from Lower
Road onto Neptune Street, google maps link below:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/8mHt7VdKyyK2tkFf6
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/8mHt7VdKyyK2tkFf6
I did perform the turn and was driving the vehicle etc so can't
really appeal on those grounds, but the no right turn signs seem
pretty far away from the actual junction and it was dark with
not great visibility so is it worth fighting this?
Scan of the PCN is attached.
#Post#: 47894--------------------------------------------------
Re: Southwark 50r contravention - prohibited right turn
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 2, 2024, 11:36 am
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Two NRT signs, one each side of the carriageway and about normal
I'd say, so I think you'll struggle but submit reps anyway on
the basis of your narrative here.
There is no scan of the PCN. Please read this and update your
thread accordingly: -
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
#Post#: 47910--------------------------------------------------
Re: Southwark 50r contravention - prohibited right turn
DIR By: shaoxter
Date: December 2, 2024, 1:24 pm
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OK didn't realise attachments didn't work. Link below:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/mieNqvg
HTML https://imgur.com/a/mieNqvg
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Re: Southwark 50r contravention - prohibited right turn
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 2, 2024, 4:20 pm
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The video shows your car turning right into the street
concerned.
This is their sole evidence of the contravention, but doesn't
show you passing a No Right Turn sign. However, this is no bar
to them enforcing the PCN, unless you can prove that the signs
were not present, or they were damaged or not seen due to
obscuration (tree foliage etc). However, assuming the GSV July
2024 view is still the same today, you'll find it difficult to
refute the PCN IMHO.
This does not mean the matter is yet closed, because the
enforcing council must manage the enforcement process such that
their duties laid down in the applicable Act and associated
regulations are adhered to. So wait a bit to see if anybody
suggests such an approach, but don't miss any deadlines on the
PCN.
#Post#: 48516--------------------------------------------------
Re: Southwark 50r contravention - prohibited right turn
DIR By: stevepoppers
Date: December 5, 2024, 3:09 pm
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I got the same ticket, they aren't very visible at night!
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Re: Southwark 50r contravention - prohibited right turn
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 5, 2024, 3:54 pm
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HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/code-52-m-adys-road-junction-amott-road/msg48510/#msg48510
Do not pay it and PM me please.
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Re: Southwark 50r contravention - prohibited right turn
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 5, 2024, 3:56 pm
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--- Quote from: shaoxter link ---
>
> OK didn't realise attachments didn't work. Link below:
>
HTML https://imgur.com/a/mieNqvg
HTML https://imgur.com/a/mieNqvg
>
--- End Quote ---
Do not pay it. PCN is fatally flawed.
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/code-52-m-adys-road-junction-amott-road/msg48510/#msg48510
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Re: Southwark 50r contravention - prohibited right turn
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 6, 2024, 6:37 am
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PM sent.
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Re: Southwark 50r contravention - prohibited right turn
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: May 15, 2025, 2:41 pm
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Edited. ::)
#Post#: 108423--------------------------------------------------
Re: Southwark 50r contravention - prohibited right turn
DIR By: JulianM
Date: February 2, 2026, 11:14 am
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Hi I just got this same PCN, feels wrong (don't they always?)
Did you manage to avoid paying this? Link to scanned image of my
PCN here:
HTML https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/b-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2F1drv.ms%2Fb%2Fc%2F4eff9fc8e72ac629%2FIQCy_aJBl0EYS74UsfDwXePYARcfhyC_TBeV0EGu3Bzxteg%3Fe%3D5bGyfL&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd014c152e78a4ab26b0508de627e3c83%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C639056491483559496%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DqY56gD4lypDAQC84dTdHe9ISHdw8WiCtlxXFsCXom4%3D&reserved=0
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