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#Post#: 50134--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued in error for entering and stopping in a box
junction
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: December 16, 2024, 2:17 pm
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Please post up the letter, redacting yr name & address.
I cannot see why they need further evidence as your opening post
seems convincing.
However, can you get a photo with a 3/4 image of your own car
similar to the angle (if not from the same height!) as the 4th
photo in yr opening post.
This link
HTML https://www.google.com/search?num=10&client=firefox-b-e&sca_esv=e5ef70f8f2be8644&q=Mercedes-Benz+GLC&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0BglSNKPbDQcL4Et01QEIYvg5bRO_M3ywqCa9xtNRWwAm_qOe_c9lI78Uqe-Ht_ugkYVWG4KbuNih5Uc00qY9UsbxF5VDU6oWu6wKyMxQ4JqagJJK-QQoCSu8w72odwBSkF0Dty4JiRehICCf1FuOKpbUcU7LBCFyYaFzUs-fthpG_D_JAWOEC_Si5U8dtbrZHBJo9rnWf7VYPPoxisFPWFcZbF-w&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi4zanHi62KAxVDWEEAHcIFAvMQtKgLegQIFBAB&biw=1152&bih=525&dpr=1.67<br
/>will lead you to images of a merc - select one(s) that
indicate
the distictive size window shape of the Merc in the video.
Also you could edit the number plate photos with arrows to
highlight the differences.
That you car was x miles away is irrelevant - the point is that
it is clearly not the vehicle captured by the TfL camera.
It ;looks as if they are trying to tick boxes to justify
accepting your reps.
See what others say and post your draft submission here before
sending in.
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EDIT - crossed with Stamfordman's post: make sure you included
is point about Y/V.
#Post#: 50148--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued in error for entering and stopping in a box
junction
DIR By: NTIAEP
Date: December 16, 2024, 4:53 pm
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If it's of any benefit, a Volvo SUV's rear lights are vertically
mounted on the D-pillar, and not horizontal along the
rear-quarter corner and tailgate/hatch (as depicted in the
council's pic).
#Post#: 50348--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued in error for entering and stopping in a box
junction
DIR By: vijaysriram101
Date: December 18, 2024, 5:08 am
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thank you, Please find the attached image copy of the letter
received from the TFL requesting for more information.
[attachment deleted by admin]
#Post#: 50351--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued in error for entering and stopping in a box
junction
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 18, 2024, 5:13 am
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It doesn't seem to be a clone but a plate misread although we
have seen plates altered by a bit of tape to make them
different.
#Post#: 50358--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued in error for entering and stopping in a box
junction
DIR By: RichardW
Date: December 18, 2024, 6:46 am
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Looks to me they have only read the first line of your rep and
pressed the 'cloned' car button reply button (or maybe they
didn't even get that far, and it was an auto response to the 'it
wasn't my car' reason for representation). Surely you can just
reply with words to the effect of Please review your own photos
- there is no clone - the car in the photo is not mine, it has a
different number plate and it is not the same make/model as
mine.
#Post#: 50360--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued in error for entering and stopping in a box
junction
DIR By: mickR
Date: December 18, 2024, 7:00 am
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attaching a pic of the rear of your car with the lights onto
highlight the difference might also help to wake them up.
they won't bother researching photos of the difference so put it
in front of them
#Post#: 50365--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued in error for entering and stopping in a box
junction
DIR By: vijaysriram101
Date: December 18, 2024, 7:16 am
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Hi All, Could you please review my representation letter
Dear Sir/madam,
Re: PCN: GX19893768
I am writing to add more information for my representation to
challenge the issuance of the above PCN, which I believe is due
to a misreading of my vehicle's license plate.
On 01/11/2024 at 18:00, I was working from home and have
provided proof of an office meeting that occurred during this
time. Therefore, I could not have been at London Westhorne
Avenue.
Upon reviewing the DVD evidence provided, I have identified a
significant error. The vehicle captured in the video/image is
clearly a Mercedes Benz GLC 300, which can be easily
distinguished from my Volvo XC90.
Key Differences:
1. Rear Lights: The vehicle in the image has horizontally
mounted rear lights, typical of a Mercedes Benz GLC 300. In
contrast, the Volvo XC90 has vertically mounted rear lights on
the D-pillar.
!image: PCN_Challenge4.jpg
Where as a Volvo’s rear light looks like the below
!image: pcn_challenge7.jpeg
2. Rear Quarter Window: The rear quarter window in the image
matches that of a Mercedes Benz GLC 300, not a Volvo XC90. I
have included images for comparison:
• Volvo XC90: Volvo XC90 Rear Quarter Window
!image: pcn_challenge8.jpeg
• Mercedes Benz GLC 300: Mercedes Benz GLC 300 Rear Quarter
Window
!image: PCN_challenge5.jpeg
The rear quarter window glass in the below image doesn’t looks
like a Volvo.
Sample picture of Merc GLC rear quarter window glass
3. Wheel Disc: The wheel disc design in the image differs
significantly from that of my Volvo XC90. Below is an image of
my car's wheel disc for comparison: !My Car's Wheel Disc
Volvo wheel disc:
!image:
Merc Wheel disc:
4. License Plate: My car's license plate has the dealer’s name
"Riverside" printed on it, which is not visible in the image of
the car that entered the yellow junction box.
License plate of the car in that incident:
Given these distinct differences, it appears that there has been
a misreading of the license plate, leading to the incorrect
issuance of this PCN. The car involved in this incident is not
mine and clearly looks like a license plate misread.
There is no clone; the car in the photo is not mine, it has a
different number plate, and it is not the same make/model as
mine.
I kindly request that you review the photographic evidence
closely and consider the clear distinctions between a Mercedes
Benz GLC 300 and a Volvo XC90, and cancel this PCN.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
[attachment deleted by admin]
#Post#: 50366--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued in error for entering and stopping in a box
junction
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 18, 2024, 7:22 am
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You need to spell this out at the start.
I am writing to add more information for my representation to
challenge the issuance of the above PCN, which I believe is due
to a misread of the offending vehicle's license plate - it
appears the offending vehicle has the VRM GV22JDX, which is a
black Mercedes, whereas my car has the VRM GY22JDX. The V may
have been read as a Y.
#Post#: 50367--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued in error for entering and stopping in a box
junction
DIR By: mickR
Date: December 18, 2024, 8:04 am
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also if you're sending pics of your car make sure the reg plate
is clearly visible in the photo. otherwise it's just a random
pic of any volvo
#Post#: 50967--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued in error for entering and stopping in a box
junction
DIR By: vijaysriram101
Date: December 24, 2024, 9:19 am
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Hi All, I have posted on 18/12/2024 my responses to the Red
Routes ,PO Box 335 Darlington DL1 9PU as they requested more
information on my representation, However I have received the
letter back and can see the update in the TFL PCN history as `23
December 2024On Hold: SUS26 - Representation Received
N/A`. It looks like the explanation letter I sent was not even
opened. Im totally stressed as I'm not very clear as why the
letter was returned unopened.
Thanks in advance for all your help.
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