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#Post#: 47468--------------------------------------------------
Possible illegal NIP
DIR By: Freerangetriker2012
Date: November 28, 2024, 10:03 am
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Hi
I received a NIP through the post this morning. My question is
can they prosecute under the following circumstances.
It was in a 30mph limit, just before a start of a 40 zone. It
was 2 police officers with a camera on a tripod. They were in an
unmarked vehicle, no uniform and no hi viz. No signs or
anything, although I do know they are not mandatory. Also, the
letter I received this morning did not have my recorded speed,
which I thought was the norm, I'd kinda like to know what
exactly I'm possibly being prosecuted for. It's my first offence
so what is likley to be the outcome. If it's all legit and I did
speed (I don't think I did but if it's legitimately proved
otherwise) I will obviously put my hands up. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Possible illegal NIP
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: November 28, 2024, 10:18 am
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Yes
#Post#: 47475--------------------------------------------------
Re: Possible illegal NIP
DIR By: mickR
Date: November 28, 2024, 10:22 am
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if your letter says somewhere "S172" then it's asking for you to
confirm the drivers details. you must do this or it will get a
whole lot worse.
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Re: Possible illegal NIP
DIR By: 666
Date: November 28, 2024, 10:24 am
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It all seems in order.
#Post#: 47489--------------------------------------------------
Re: Possible illegal NIP
DIR By: Freerangetriker2012
Date: November 28, 2024, 11:45 am
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How does it work then. Do I confirm drivers details then I get
the recorded speed and find out i i have a fine/points etc
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Re: Possible illegal NIP
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: November 28, 2024, 11:54 am
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--- Quote from: Freerangetriker2012 link ---
>
> How does it work then. Do I confirm drivers details then I get
the recorded speed and find out i i have a fine/points etc
>
--- End Quote ---
You comply with your obligation under s 172 to name the driver.
Assuming that’s you, you’ll then be offered a speed awareness
course, a fixed penalty or be sent a single justice procedure
notice to have your case dealt with at court.
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Re: Possible illegal NIP
DIR By: The Slithy Tove
Date: November 28, 2024, 12:54 pm
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--- Quote from: Freerangetriker2012 link ---
> I'd kinda like to know what exactly I'm possibly being
prosecuted for.
--- End Quote ---
Surely the NIP says what the alleged offence is (e.g. exceeding
the 30mph speed limit). It doesn't need to go into any detail of
the recorded speed (though often it does).
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Re: Possible illegal NIP
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: November 28, 2024, 3:55 pm
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The NIP has to inform you of "...the nature of the alleged
offence and the time and place where it is alleged to have been
committed"
The nature of the offence is exceeding he speed limit, so your
NIP seems to fit the bill.
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