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       #Post#: 47241--------------------------------------------------
       RB Greenwich, Roper St, Code 01, Sunday parked on school
       markings
   DIR By: Milky Way1
       Date: November 27, 2024, 6:21 am
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       Dear Forum Members,
       I recently received a parking fine after parking on the past
       Sunday outside a school, where the markings clearly state "No
       Stopping Mon-Fri, 8am-4pm." I ensured I did not park in the
       restricted white residential boxes but in the yellow school zone
       outside the restricted hours. Despite this, the ticket states:
       "Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours." I have
       photos showing the signage, markings, and my parking location.
       Could you kindly advise:
       1- Is the ticket enforceable given the restriction applies only
       on the white residential boxes and not on school yellow markings
       Mon-Fri, and I parked on a Sunday?
       2- How should I present my evidence to emphasise the signage
       contradicts the alleged violation, i.e. clear separation between
       the school zone and the residential parking areas in my
       argument?
       3- Are there any precedents for successfully challenging similar
       penalties?
       I would greatly appreciate your guidance on this matter and any
       other advice you may offer.
       #Post#: 47244--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RB Greenwich, Roper St, Code 01, Sunday parked on school
       markings
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 27, 2024, 6:36 am
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       There are double yellow lines there too but appeals have been
       won on confusion about mixed markings.
       Post the PCN with no redactions.
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       #Post#: 47254--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RB Greenwich, Roper St, Code 01, Sunday parked on school
       markings
   DIR By: Milky Way1
       Date: November 27, 2024, 7:22 am
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       Thank you for your reply. Yep this is it:-) Do you mean to post
       here using the link? Or post the appeal?
       #Post#: 47274--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RB Greenwich, Roper St, Code 01, Sunday parked on school
       markings
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: November 27, 2024, 9:00 am
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       OP, I understand stamfordman's point, but I don't think this
       applies in your case.
       DYL may not be accompanied by traffic signs, the examples about
       mixed markings and their mixed messages apply, if I remember
       correctly, to single yellow lines which convey a waiting
       restriction [when used in conjunction with No Stopping markings]
       within a Controlled Parking Zone.
       Whether there should be DYL - as in is there a traffic order to
       this effect- I don't know.
       #Post#: 47290--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RB Greenwich, Roper St, Code 01, Sunday parked on school
       markings
   DIR By: Milky Way1
       Date: November 27, 2024, 9:47 am
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       Thank you for all your insights,
       here is the PCN
  HTML https://pcn.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/TicketDetails.aspx
       Pls advise if it's worth a challenge. I looked for TRO online
       but none is available. I imagine FoI is required but that would
       leave me out of time so would you agree with me to challenge,
       asking for TRO.
       Thanks
       #Post#: 47295--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RB Greenwich, Roper St, Code 01, Sunday parked on school
       markings
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 27, 2024, 10:23 am
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       What are PCN number and car VRM...
       It's a controlled zone. Yes the guidance says a single yellow
       should be reinforced with a waiting time plate.
       But there is an issue with people not realising there is a
       single or double yellow given the zig-zags are also yellow and
       not knowing that zig-zags don't have a kerbside line.
       #Post#: 47321--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RB Greenwich, Roper St, Code 01, Sunday parked on school
       markings
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: November 27, 2024, 12:47 pm
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       I don't think there is any bar to having school zigzags by
       double-yellow lines, but clearly, because DYLs don't need any
       sign, there is scope for confusion. The school markings are No
       Stopping whereas DYLs on their own would allow boarding and
       alighting.
       #Post#: 47343--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RB Greenwich, Roper St, Code 01, Sunday parked on school
       markings
   DIR By: Milky Way1
       Date: November 27, 2024, 4:04 pm
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       Could you pls advise on what grounds can I base my challenge?
       Thank you
       #Post#: 47344--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RB Greenwich, Roper St, Code 01, Sunday parked on school
       markings
   DIR By: Milky Way1
       Date: November 27, 2024, 4:20 pm
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > What are PCN number and car VRM...
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       PCN GR15600889
       VRM KW20WNP
       Apologies just realised the QR Code doesn't work on the link
       #Post#: 47352--------------------------------------------------
       Re: RB Greenwich, Roper St, Code 01, Sunday parked on school
       markings
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 27, 2024, 4:58 pm
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       The yellow lines are a bit degraded. About 10 years ago they
       changed from a single to double yellow.
       They did lose a tribunal case when there was a single yellow
       where the adjudicator said it wasn't reasonable to know the
       zig-zags don't have a kerb line especially as there was no
       timeplate.
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