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#Post#: 51455--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
By: WaltWhite Date: December 31, 2024, 4:27 am
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I sent this yesterday,
Have you read my email dated 17th December?
I could not enter representations up to 28 days as you had
prematurely issued the Charge Certificate?
Kind regards
I received the following response today. I’m totally confused
now ……
Good Morning,
I am unsure of why another case has been mentioned hence the
confusion.
Please be advised you have stated you have not received prior
correspondence. Therefore, the next process is to wait for an
Order For Recovery to be issued, within the Order For Recovery
there will be a statutory declaration enclosed. There will be
three grounds on the form, one ground will apply to your
situation. Once actioned you must send the form to the address
outlined on the form.
When the Traffic Enforcement Centre action your paperwork, they
will send us a revoking order, and yourself one. You will be
contacted by the local authority.
The Penalty Charge Notice will then be reset, and you will then
have the option to pay the reduced amount or make a
representation against the charge.
Regards,
Each time I’m corresponding with the same person as LB Redbridge
so it’s not that they are not aware of the all facts of this
case. And PCN number is always included in emails….🤷
#Post#: 51464--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
By: fraser.mitchell Date: December 31, 2024, 6:07 am
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The form is the PE3. Here are the three grounds: -
0
Notice to Owner (Parking contravention) or
Enforcement Notice (Bus lane contravention) or
Penalty Charge Notice (Moving Traffic contravention or
Congestion Charging contravention)
0
authority concerned within 28 days of the
service of the Notice to Owner/Enforcement
Notice/Penalty Charge Notice, but did not receive a rejection
notice.
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local authority’s decision to reject my
representation, within 28 days of service of the
rejection notice, but have had no response to my appeal.
As far as I can see, the sender of the email knows absolutely
nothing about the process, because none of the reasons above
seem to fit your circumstances, although you did attempt to
submit reps but the system would not accept them, so I would
tick the second ground if it were me. You did make
representations !
#Post#: 51483--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
By: ivanleo Date: December 31, 2024, 8:20 am
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[quote author=WaltWhite link=topic=4018.msg51445#msg51445
date=1735605941]
So should I wait till the 13th for the outcome or go straight to
the stage 2 complaint as you suggested [member=1]cp8759[/member]
?
[/quote]
[member=2453]WaltWhite[/member] wait till the 13th, I thought
one of the previous replies you'd received was the stage 1
response, but obviously it wasn't.
#Post#: 51484--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
By: ivanleo Date: December 31, 2024, 8:21 am
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[quote author=Incandescent link=topic=4018.msg51464#msg51464
date=1735646851]
As far as I can see, the sender of the email knows absolutely
nothing about the process, because none of the reasons above
seem to fit your circumstances, although you did attempt to
submit reps but the system would not accept them, so I would
tick the second ground if it were me. You did make
representations !
[/quote]
+1, council officers often try and be helpful but have no idea
what they're talking about. [member=2453]WaltWhite[/member]
please correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can see none of
the three statutory grounds for filing a PE3 apply to your case.
#Post#: 51576--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
By: WaltWhite Date: January 1, 2025, 7:29 am
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[quote author=cp8759 link=topic=4018.msg51484#msg51484
date=1735654900]
[quote author=Incandescent link=topic=4018.msg51464#msg51464
date=1735646851]
As far as I can see, the sender of the email knows absolutely
nothing about the process, because none of the reasons above
seem to fit your circumstances, although you did attempt to
submit reps but the system would not accept them, so I would
tick the second ground if it were me. You did make
representations !
[/quote]
+1, council officers often try and be helpful but have no idea
what they're talking about. [member=2453]WaltWhite[/member]
please correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can see none of
the three statutory grounds for filing a PE3 apply to your case.
[/quote]
Happy New Year.
I did try and submit reps on the 15th but the system wouldn’t
allow me to. I then emailed them to the Parking team at the
council a couple of days later when I got their contact details.
No response to them though yet.
Would that count as one of the statutory grounds?
#Post#: 51589--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
By: ivanleo Date: January 1, 2025, 8:51 am
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[quote author=WaltWhite link=topic=4018.msg51576#msg51576
date=1735738196]
Happy New Year.
I did try and submit reps on the 15th but the system wouldn’t
allow me to. I then emailed them to the Parking team at the
council a couple of days later when I got their contact details.
No response to them though yet.
Would that count as one of the statutory grounds?
[/quote]
No, you have to use the formal complaints process.
Do you have a timed / dated screenshot from the 15th showing
that the system wouldn't allow you to submit a representation?
#Post#: 51591--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
By: WaltWhite Date: January 1, 2025, 9:03 am
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[quote author=cp8759 link=topic=4018.msg51589#msg51589
date=1735743104]
[quote author=WaltWhite link=topic=4018.msg51576#msg51576
date=1735738196]
Happy New Year.
I did try and submit reps on the 15th but the system wouldn’t
allow me to. I then emailed them to the Parking team at the
council a couple of days later when I got their contact details.
No response to them though yet.
Would that count as one of the statutory grounds?
[/quote]
No, you have to use the formal complaints process.
Do you have a timed / dated screenshot from the 15th showing
that the system wouldn't allow you to submit a representation?
[/quote]
Yes. The file ‘Properties’ show the screenshot as taken on the
15th Dec. Hopefully that’s ok?
#Post#: 51592--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
By: ivanleo Date: January 1, 2025, 9:07 am
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[quote author=WaltWhite link=topic=4018.msg51591#msg51591
date=1735743793]
Yes. The file ‘Properties’ show the screenshot as taken on the
15th Dec. Hopefully that’s ok?
[/quote]
Yes that's fine.
#Post#: 52453--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
By: WaltWhite Date: January 8, 2025, 10:20 am
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Just received this today. Advice here gratefully received.
As per thread above I have made an official complaint but not
heard anything yet.
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#Post#: 52469--------------------------------------------------
Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
By: fraser.mitchell Date: January 8, 2025, 11:17 am
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It is a letter intended to intimidate you into paying by using
the words "County Court". People then panic and cough-up
thinking it means a CCJ. Well, it doesn't. In the enforcement
process of all PCNs, there is no possible prospect of a CCJ,
because this possibility was deliberately excluded from the
legislation. That is why there is the Traffic Enforcement
Centre.
My personal opinion is that such letters are unlawful but there
is no legal way of getting this accepted, it seems.
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