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       #Post#: 49666--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
       y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
       By: WaltWhite Date: December 13, 2024, 9:43 am
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       [quote author=WaltWhite link=topic=4018.msg49129#msg49129
       date=1733783400]
       I can’t see your draft [member=24]Hippocrates[/member]
       [/quote]
       Anyone? I need to submit this by the 15th
       Thanks again
       #Post#: 49721--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
       y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
       By: Hippocrates Date: December 14, 2024, 3:27 am
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       Yours is fine. Sorry as been busy with cases and my internet was
       down for a day recently.
       #Post#: 50022--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
       y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
       By: WaltWhite Date: December 15, 2024, 5:28 pm
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       So I've tried to challenge the PCN today, as per a post on here
       I thought the last date would be today the 15th?
       When I went to challenge it online today (the 15th) it said I
       only had the option to pay it - which is now £195.
       What are my options? Can I still challenge or do I just have to
       pay the £195 and thats it  >:(
       #Post#: 50116--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
       y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
       By: WaltWhite Date: December 16, 2024, 12:53 pm
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       [quote author=WaltWhite link=topic=4018.msg50022#msg50022
       date=1734305322]
       So I've tried to challenge the PCN today, as per a post on here
       I thought the last date would be today the 15th?
       When I went to challenge it online today (the 15th) it said I
       only had the option to pay it - which is now £195.
       What are my options? Can I still challenge or do I just have to
       pay the £195 and thats it  >:(
       [/quote]
       Received today.....
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       #Post#: 50123--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
       y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
       By: stamfordman Date: December 16, 2024, 1:18 pm
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       If Hippo is right the charge certificate has been served
       prematurely which gives you a win I think but I'm not very good
       at calculating this.
       PCN date: 14 November
       CC date: 13 December
       #Post#: 50124--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
       y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
       By: fraser.mitchell Date: December 16, 2024, 1:42 pm
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       The PCN says a CC may be served after 28 days from date of
       service.
       "If you fail to pay the Penalty Charge or make representations
       before the end of a period of 28 days beginning with the date of
       service of this notice an increased charge of £195 may be
       payable. We may send you a Charge Certificate seeking payment of
       this increased amount."
       Have the council got their IT in a twizzle ? It is a stupid
       quirk of the LLA & TfL Act 2003 that the period for payment of
       the penalty is 28 days from date of notice, but date to submit
       reps is 28 days from date of service. You do have to wonder at
       the intellect of the drafters of the above Act. Just how stupid
       can you be !
       #Post#: 50209--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
       y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
       By: WaltWhite Date: December 17, 2024, 7:12 am
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       [quote author=Incandescent link=topic=4018.msg50124#msg50124
       date=1734378164]
       The PCN says a CC may be served after 28 days from date of
       service.
       "If you fail to pay the Penalty Charge or make representations
       before the end of a period of 28 days beginning with the date of
       service of this notice an increased charge of £195 may be
       payable. We may send you a Charge Certificate seeking payment of
       this increased amount."
       Have the council got their IT in a twizzle ? It is a stupid
       quirk of the LLA & TfL Act 2003 that the period for payment of
       the penalty is 28 days from date of notice, but date to submit
       reps is 28 days from date of service. You do have to wonder at
       the intellect of the drafters of the above Act. Just how stupid
       can you be !
       [/quote]
       Any help with next steps gratefully received....
       #Post#: 50256--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
       y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
       By: Hippocrates Date: December 17, 2024, 1:39 pm
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       DO NOT PAY THIS!
       Dear Redbridge
       I acknowledge receipt of the Charge Certificate pertaining to
       PCN..................VRM................
       The date of the PCN is November 14th.  Therefore, the deemed
       date of service is November 18th. Clearly, you have prematurely
       issued a Charge Certificate. It follows that the earliest you
       may serve such a document is 15th December. I also note that
       this is par for the course as you have recently lost a case on
       the same issue.
       Therefore, please cancel the Charge Certificate so that I may
       make formal representations to which I am entitled according to
       the statutory process.
       This is not a matter for discretion - rather a matter of
       statutory compliance.
       Yours
       **
       Send it to their e mail address and mark it urgent. AND put in
       your representations too.
       parkingandtrafficenforcement@redbridge.gov.uk
       #Post#: 50263--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
       y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
       By: WaltWhite Date: December 17, 2024, 2:38 pm
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       [quote author=Hippocrates link=topic=4018.msg50256#msg50256
       date=1734464356]
       DO NOT PAY THIS!
       Dear Redbridge
       I acknowledge receipt of the Charge Certificate pertaining to
       PCN..................VRM................
       The date of the PCN is November 14th.  Therefore, the deemed
       date of service is November 18th. Clearly, you have prematurely
       issued a Charge Certificate. It follows that the earliest you
       may serve such a document is 15th December. I also note that
       this is par for the course as you have recently lost a case on
       the same issue.
       Therefore, please cancel the Charge Certificate so that I may
       make formal representations to which I am entitled according to
       the statutory process.
       This is not a matter for discretion - rather a matter of
       statutory compliance.
       Yours
       **
       Send it to their e mail address and mark it urgent. AND put in
       your representations too.
       parkingandtrafficenforcement@redbridge.gov.uk
       [/quote]
       Thank you [member=24]Hippocrates[/member] and all replies
       Would you include the representations with the email you have
       outlined very helpfully in the previous message. Or do I wait
       for LB Redbridge to open this option back up on the online
       portal?
       #Post#: 50322--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LB Redbridge 53j - Cleveland Rd, Ilford IG1 Failing to compl
       y with restriction on vehicles entering pedest zone (cam
       By: Hippocrates Date: December 18, 2024, 3:50 am
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       Send it and do not wait. I would make a formal complaint too.
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