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Trace Debt Recovery - Alliance Parking - 2020 I think
DIR By: simbaswift
Date: November 25, 2024, 3:08 am
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I have received a letter from Trace Debt Recovery on behalf of
Alliance Parking UK Ltd for a PCN dated June 2020. Since that
time I have moved house, had said car stolen (a week later) and
I moved to be near my parents as my mum is battling cancer and I
spend a lot of time at the hospital - most recently 12 hours a
day for weeks on end. I have a vague memory of the time in
question, it was during covid and I went to visit a friend
before she left for Sri Lanka. I have tried reading all the
forums and have seen to ignore Trace as they cannot do anything
but I really dont know what to do. I can't afford to pay £160
for a fine I didnt know I had four years ago. Can anyone advise?
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Re: Trace Debt Recovery - Alliance Parking - 2020 I think
DIR By: b789
Date: November 25, 2024, 5:54 am
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You can safely ignore Trace and any other debt collector. They
are powerless to do anything. Never, ever try and communicate
with a useless debt collector.
It is far too late to try and appeal anything now. What you are
waiting to see is if Alliance Parking decide to try and initiate
litigation to try and recover the alleged debt.
There is no debt unless a judge says so, so don't feel as though
you are indebted to them, you aren't.
So, ignore all debt collector letters. If/when you receive a
Letter of Claim (LoC) either from Alliance themselves or one of
a number of bulk litigators, come back and show us.
Anything that only gives you 14 days to pay is a debt collection
letter. An LoC will give you 30 days to pay.
#Post#: 46919--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trace Debt Recovery - Alliance Parking - 2020 I think
DIR By: Dave65
Date: November 25, 2024, 5:57 am
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First you should not ignore this.
You could make a subject access request to Alliance Parking the
data control officer for all the details etc they hold for you.
This should include the original PPN.
You should include all references you have and proof of the
address, usually a household bill with personal details
redacted.
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Re: Trace Debt Recovery - Alliance Parking - 2020 I think
DIR By: b789
Date: November 25, 2024, 6:12 am
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Wrong! You do not want a SAR until after any claim has been
issued. The biggest mistake most of these operators make is
screwing up the Particulars of Claim (PoC). Whilst it is no
excuse, they do try and argue that the defendant should have
known what it was all about, especially if they can show that
they answered a SAR at any stage before a claim was issued.
A SAR now, will not prevent any possible future litigation. Let
them issue a claim that fails CPR 16.4 and you have a very
strong chance that it will be struck out before it ever gets
anywhere near a hearing.
If you desperately want to know all the details, submit a SAR
after a claim has been issued.
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Re: Trace Debt Recovery - Alliance Parking - 2020 I think
DIR By: simbaswift
Date: November 25, 2024, 7:14 am
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Thanks both. From my memory at the time, my friend told me it
was free to park and she said to ignore the fine as it was a
private car park. Obviously incorrect information and I wasn't
there very long. I then had my car stolen and I moved house so I
haven't heard anything since - but perhaps it was going to my
old address. I moved 15 months ago. I have never replied or
engaged with either Alliance or Trace.
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Re: Trace Debt Recovery - Alliance Parking - 2020 I think
DIR By: b789
Date: November 25, 2024, 7:21 am
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You should contact the DPO of Alliance and serve a Data
Rectification Notice on them to update their records with your
current address for service and to erase your old address (that
would have been on your V5C at the time of the alleged
contravention). Also tell them to advise any third parties that
they may have passed your details on to.
Alliance Parking Data Protection Officer contact details:
info@alliance-parking.co.uk
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Re: Trace Debt Recovery - Alliance Parking - 2020 I think
DIR By: simbaswift
Date: November 25, 2024, 7:23 am
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Is it bad to contact them with up to date details if I've
ignored the contact from Trace?
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Re: Trace Debt Recovery - Alliance Parking - 2020 I think
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: November 25, 2024, 7:25 am
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No, in fact it's the wise thing to do. You don't want to leave
open the possibility of a court claim being served to your old
address.
#Post#: 46944--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trace Debt Recovery - Alliance Parking - 2020 I think
DIR By: simbaswift
Date: November 25, 2024, 7:27 am
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To clarify, the current post that I received from Trace was sent
to my current up to date address
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Re: Trace Debt Recovery - Alliance Parking - 2020 I think
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: November 25, 2024, 7:43 am
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I'm aware of that - it would still be sensible to ensure the
alleged creditor (Alliance Parking) has been made aware of your
new address though.
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