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congestion Charge fine scammed now fined £270
DIR By: Mariapav
Date: November 23, 2024, 7:57 am
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I was scammed into a false payment of congestion charge in
august by a TFL look a like page direct from google. . The
fine was then sent to my old place. ( I had not updated my
vehicle record, only my licence ) so the fine accrued a late
penalty and I was outside the appeal window by the time I
received it.
I phoned TFL who said I could appeal still but I have recieved a
letter saying it is turned down as it was outside the 28 day
appeal window. However, if I can offer mitigating evidence like
I was in hospital, prison, the armed forces or holiday then they
would reconsider. Have I got any grounds to contest this? I
know I should have changed the address but I believed I had paid
the charge and can prove that with a bank receipt. I have been
the victimn of scammers and now punished doubly for it . It’s a
really tough time to be expected to pay £270 and only got the
appeal refusal letter today although it’s dated 12th November
and says it must be paid in 14 days . Pretty upset about it all
but really don’t want to get a county court order …
Ugh !
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Re: congestion Charge fine scammed now fined £270
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: November 23, 2024, 9:02 am
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Are all the pages of the TFL letter visible? I can't see where
the outstanding amounts are detailed. Leave everything visible
except your name and address. And please, please post the images
the right way up.
Is the name and address on the TFL letter correct and current?
Have you received any documents titled Charge Certificate or an
Order for Recovery?
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Re: congestion Charge fine scammed now fined £270
DIR By: Mariapav
Date: November 23, 2024, 11:07 am
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Thanks for replying.
I reattach the images showing the appeal decision letter the
right way round with the outstanding amount. Also the
transaction for the congestion charge which turned out to be a
scammer.
I was renting my house out and had moved in with my partner and
didn’t receive 2 letters until late October when the tenants
moved out. When I phoned TFL, I didn’t say I had moved out
because I was concerned of another fine as I realised I hadn’t
updated my vehicle details then . So all TFL correspondence is
going to the old address ( which is still my house ). I can’t
seem to find the other 2 letters now and may have left them at
the other house . You can probably see I am in a panic about
this now. I don’t think I’ve recieved an order for recovery
just 2 charge letters.
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Re: congestion Charge fine scammed now fined £270
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 23, 2024, 11:35 am
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Where are your representations which they disregarded?
Is the timeline that when you returned to your registered DVLA
address you found the PCN and a Charge Certificate?
Have you updated your V5C or moved back into it?
Pl give more details as to why you only received TfL's letter
today. Do you mean you still not occupying the registered
address and therefore because you didn't notify them in your
reps to reply to a different address you only collected their
letter today?
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Re: congestion Charge fine scammed now fined £270
DIR By: Mariapav
Date: November 23, 2024, 11:51 am
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The timeline is roughly
First letter was sent by TFL to my old address which was rented
in late august.
Second was sent in September to same address.
When tenants moved out in October 24 I found both the letters.
I then made an appeal on the website Oct 26th and the letter I
received today was the attached one saying that I wa soutside
the appeal date. I said that I had only received the
notifications at the end of October as I had not been at the
property. I didn’t say I was renting it because I realised I
hadn’t updated v5c .
I have been unable to update v5c online so I have sent it
through post this weekend.
I actually was at the property yesterday when the last letter
arrived which was the one I’ve posted dated 12/11 as it
is currently empty and I am in process of redecoration .
Does that make sense ?
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Re: congestion Charge fine scammed now fined £270
DIR By: Mariapav
Date: November 23, 2024, 11:56 am
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I just said that I had not been at the property and therefore
had not received the letters as my grounds. they have listed
all these potential reasons none of which apply. The real
reason is the house was rented, but I am worried that will open
a new can of worms . I don’t know what to do. Have just found
one of the other letters
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Re: congestion Charge fine scammed now fined £270
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 23, 2024, 1:18 pm
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I don't follow from your first post:
only got the appeal refusal letter today although it’s dated
12th Oct ..
And
I then made an appeal on the website Oct 26th
At present your risk is that they'll add a further £10 if they
register the penalty with the Traffic Enforcement Centre and
then send you an Order for Recovery
Procedurally, you can pay or wait for the OfR which would give
you the chance to consider whether you could submit a Statutory
Declaration.
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Re: congestion Charge fine scammed now fined £270
DIR By: Mariapav
Date: November 23, 2024, 1:24 pm
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I’m sorry you can see I’m getting confused with it all. I
should have said 12th NOV !
I would challenge it and wait for the O of R but what happens if
my statutory declaration gets turned down ( what’s another
tenner now ? )I don’t want to get anything which will affect my
credit rating like a CCJ. Would they offer that I pay in
instalments
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Re: congestion Charge fine scammed now fined £270
DIR By: Daim456
Date: November 23, 2024, 3:15 pm
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In time Statutory Declaration if filed with correct details
cannot be refused.
Your credit file and CCJ is not affected - it is a
decriminalised process which is separate from invoices/loan
companies.
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Re: congestion Charge fine scammed now fined £270
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 24, 2024, 5:01 am
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Your choice as to whether to submit an OfR, the only applicable
grounds would be 'Did not receive the PCN/NTO'.
You posted: [as your reps, made post-CC] 'I just said that I had
not been at the property and therefore had not received the
letters as my grounds. '
Do you have your exact submission?
I am concerned because there appears to be no proof to the
contrary that the PCN was served as required.
Others may comment.
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