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       Re: Have I been caught?
       By: Liam666 Date: August 9, 2024, 3:46 pm
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       Re: Have I been caught?
       By: andy_foster Date: August 9, 2024, 3:48 pm
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       [quote author=Liam666 link=topic=4.msg32838#msg32838
       date=1723235069]
       thanks for any input.[/quote]
       So, you posted a thread in the live cases forum, with the title
       "Speeding Ticket", because you saw a camera van and haven't
       received a speeding ticket, and accept that you are bang to
       rights, but want our opinion of whether the road looks like a
       higher limit, despite acknowledging that street lights with no
       speed limit signs to thee contrary means it's a restricted road
       with a speed limit of 30mph?
       Is there something in the water?
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       Re: Speeding ticket
       By: mickR Date: August 10, 2024, 6:30 am
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       [quote author=Liam666 link=topic=4.msg32838#msg32838
       date=1723235069]
       From the image what would you guys assume the speed limit was
       bearing in mind it's a 3 lane carriage with a 30mph road sign on
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       Re: Have I been caught?
       By: BertB Date: September 2, 2024, 5:37 am
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       Assuming your estimate of speed is correct, best tip to get
       lower than 6 points would be to fill in the request for drivers
       detail asap and receive a fixed penalty of 3 points & £100. Or
       you could try to delay things again for as long as possible,
       then delay the court date for a bit longer, argue it out at
       court, get maybe 5 points instead of 6 and a fine (c) 125% of
       your weekly wage, but at least you will have won.
       #Post#: 35506--------------------------------------------------
       delaying tactics.successful tactics on band b for getting 4 poin
       ts instead of 6
       By: naffedoff70 Date: September 3, 2024, 12:38 pm
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       I started a similar post the other day, looks like I added too
       much additional "colour" and it got taken down.
       background:
       last time I inflicted a similar situation on myself I managed to
       delay,delay,delay (pre covid) until eventually getting a summary
       justice "fill this in or else" type form. the eventualoutcome
       was I delayed my conviction @11 months so only had "active"
       points for 2 years 1 month (points applied from date of
       offence). I obviously took additional care in the interimperiod
       but, for example, if I had been caught in speed awareness
       'territory', that would have still been open to me. It also
       delayed additional insurance cost pain and reduced the period
       said pain was suffered by 11 months. The problem for me is that
       all the correspondence around delaying etc sits on a dead
       computer.
       It was 52 in a 30, I tried some old yarns at the time but did
       still cop the full 6 points. Now expired.
       last week I've likely picked up a band B, no NIP yet but
       probably somewhere between 71-74 (real speed) in a 50. obviously
       I understand strict liability, etc, I'm going to take some pain,
       would ususally be a straight 6 points I genuinely believe that
       there are some mitigating factors that make it "not as bad" as
       many other "70 odd in a 50". I'm wondering if at the summary
       justice stage,I have a slim chance of getting 4 instead of 6
       points, assuming any actual proportionality gets applied.
       Two aims -
       1- anything to delay the process as long as possible, so all
       tactics on that appreciated. Just to be clear I'm not too fussed
       if dragging out to summary justice incurrs additional costs.
       2- input from anyone that has managed to mitigate a band B down
       to four points -Can it be done? Or is 4 pOints only the preserve
       of those only a few M.P.H. into Band B?
       Any constructive input appreciated.
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       Re: Have I been caught?
       By: BertB Date: September 4, 2024, 4:19 am
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       Basically, you haven't 'picked up a band B' because that would
       only apply if you delay, delay, delay, and then take to court.
       [quote author=BertB link=topic=4.msg35315#msg35315
       date=1725273458]
       Assuming your estimate of speed is correct, best tip to get
       lower than 6 points would be to fill in the request for drivers
       detail asap and receive a fixed penalty of 3 points & £100. Or
       you could try to delay things again for as long as possible,
       then delay the court date for a bit longer, argue it out at
       court, get maybe 5 points instead of 6 and a fine (c) 125% of
       your weekly wage, but at least you will have won.
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 36348--------------------------------------------------
       NIP in unclear temporary roadworks 
       By: Mustang Sally Date: September 10, 2024, 10:40 am
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       Message:
       I came onto the M25 at 3 am from the M40 with no indication of
       roadworks or speed restrictions. As I entered onto the slip road
       there was on one lane a 50 mph restriction,all other lanes had
       no signs , the road had no visible roadworks,looking up the
       motorway there were no visible speed restrictions on the next
       gantry . I went through at about 60mph and was flashed . The
       &quot; roadworks&quot; never materialised and no further speed
       restrictions were evidence d although there were arrows
       indicating we should move to lane 1 . By the M4 ,no release
       evidenced but , eventually I increased my speed above 50mph as I
       was terrified of being rear ended  by faster trucks . Can I
       fight the NIP if I get one ?? It was totally unclear what the
       speed limit was.
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       Re: NIP in unclear temporary roadworks 
       By: DWMB2 Date: September 10, 2024, 10:42 am
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       Have you received an NIP or not?
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       Re: NIP in unclear temporary roadworks 
       By: Mustang Sally Date: September 10, 2024, 10:54 am
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       Not yet ,but it's inevitable,it flashed twice so it's going to
       happen,thought I would get ahead of the game
       #Post#: 36351--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP in unclear temporary roadworks 
       By: 666 Date: September 10, 2024, 10:57 am
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       OP, you mention "unclear temporary roadworks". Why do you think
       there were roadworks?
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