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       #Post#: 91783--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Approx how long do NIP’s take to arrive from M1 variable 
   DIR By: 666
       Date: September 28, 2025, 1:41 am
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       Where did you get the "+1"? It's 14 days.
       I have no relevant experience, but I'd be surprised if it's more
       than 3-4 days. There need be little or no human involvement in
       the process, so no reason for any delay.
       #Post#: 91785--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Approx how long do NIP’s take to arrive from M1 variable 
   DIR By: Old Git
       Date: September 28, 2025, 3:22 am
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       Date of offence is Day 0 when counting for NIP so it’s 14 days
       from day following the date of offence.
       #Post#: 91787--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Approx how long do NIP’s take to arrive from M1 variable 
   DIR By: 666
       Date: September 28, 2025, 4:12 am
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       --- Quote from: Old Git link ---
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       > Date of offence is Day 0 when counting for NIP so it’s 14 days
       from day following the date of offence.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No, its "within fourteen days of the commission of the offence"
       [Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988, s 1(1(c))].
       Not 14 days from the day following, or indeed the day before.
       For an offence on the 1st of the month, the NIP must be served
       by the 15th.
       #Post#: 93701--------------------------------------------------
       Italian speeding fine
   DIR By: ayersrcg
       Date: October 11, 2025, 10:05 am
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       I was caught speeding in a hire car in Italy in May 2023, with
       an unexpected fine sent through in Feb 2024. I duly paid it (and
       have proof of payment from my bank). I thought nothing more and
       then a year later started being chased for non- payment (May
       2025). I sent proof of payment( bank statement from HSBC)
       promptly but got no response. I have just received a letter from
       a UK claims recovery organisation claiming I owe £600 in fine
       and cost. As a point of principle, I won’t pay the fine again.
       If they don’t drop this, escalate costs and we go to court, what
       is the likely view of a judge, if I can show a statement with my
       payment to the correct account. I have communicated promptly
       every time but return communications have been
       slow/non-existent.
       #Post#: 96659--------------------------------------------------
       Are SPECS/VECTOR average speed camera installations separated by
       direction?
   DIR By: MrLH25
       Date: November 3, 2025, 12:01 pm
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       So there is this single carriageway road that is posted at 50mph
       and is enforced via Jenoptik VECTOR average speed cameras
       mounted on streetlamps. There is this exit that is only usable
       in one of the directions and I happened to miss it, I pulled
       into the first lay by after the junction (And passing a camera
       in said direction at 50) and then got a safe opportunity to
       perform a U turn taking me back the opposite direction in which
       I passed a different camera which is almost directly opposite
       the camera I passed in the first direction albeit this one is
       monitoring the other direction. I then pulled over and waited
       for a gap to do a second U turn to get back to my exit.
       I'm worried if the camera systems are interlinked and may have
       wrongly calculated my average speed as way higher than it should
       be.
       How "idiot proof" are these kind of installations? Like does the
       ANPR system controlling the stretch only check for offences
       between cameras in the same direction or are all cameras linked
       regardless of direction?
       Example stretch. Eastbound features cameras A, B and C at the
       end, middle and end. Westbound features cameras D, E and F at
       similar positions to A, B and C. If a motorist going eastbound
       passes cameras A and B, but then decides to pull a U turn and
       then pass cameras E and F (All while staying within the speed
       limit). Will the system flag an offence between cameras B and E?
       #Post#: 96672--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Are SPECS/VECTOR average speed camera installations
       separated by direction?
   DIR By: JustLoveCars
       Date: November 3, 2025, 1:37 pm
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       --- Quote from: MrLH25 link ---
       >
       > Will the system flag an offence between cameras B and E?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No.   (Average speeds are only calculated for A to B and B to C
       and D to E and E to F)
       #Post#: 96674--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Have I been caught?
   DIR By: martin_t
       Date: November 3, 2025, 1:47 pm
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       Or, A to D, B to F, D to E...
       #Post#: 96680--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Italian speeding fine
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: November 3, 2025, 2:25 pm
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       --- Quote from: ayersrcg link ---
       >
       > I was caught speeding in a hire car in Italy in May 2023, with
       an unexpected fine sent through in Feb 2024. I duly paid it (and
       have proof of payment from my bank). I thought nothing more and
       then a year later started being chased for non- payment (May
       2025). I sent proof of payment( bank statement from HSBC)
       promptly but got no response. I have just received a letter from
       a UK claims recovery organisation claiming I owe £600 in fine
       and cost. As a point of principle, I won’t pay the fine again.
       If they don’t drop this, escalate costs and we go to court, what
       is the likely view of a judge, if I can show a statement with my
       payment to the correct account. I have communicated promptly
       every time but return communications have been
       slow/non-existent.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There's very little chance you'll hear any more about it.
       there's no way foreign motoring fines can be enforced here.Don't
       worry, be happy.
       #Post#: 97141--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Have I been caught?
   DIR By: MrLH25
       Date: November 6, 2025, 3:41 pm
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       Was driving to LBA tonight and got caught by suprise that a new
       speed camera has been fitted by Apperly bridge. Its that recent
       that it has not been on Waze yet, first camera I saw is at the
       bottom of the hill opposite the pub, another one was a bit
       further on and a final yellow pole with no cameras attached to
       it yet. Rumoured to become a SPECS array once completed. Does
       anyone know if these half-finished stretches are immediately
       live and recording as fixed cameras once one is errected or do
       they only become live and recording once the final camera is
       installed and commissioned?
       #Post#: 97171--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Have I been caught?
   DIR By: 666
       Date: November 7, 2025, 1:05 am
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       LBA?
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