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       #Post#: 78262--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Have I been caught?
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: June 26, 2025, 4:19 am
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       Morning all. Are M25 cameras operated by the relevant safety
       camera partnership for that county or centralised does anyone
       know?
       I was flashed Monday 9th June but yet to receive anything
       through. I want to check nothing has been sent and lost rather
       then get a nasty surprise in 6 months and then have to convince
       someone that I never received the form and please can they
       sentence me to £100 & 3 points as opposed to 3 or 4 times that
       amount.
       I'm not 100% sure what the capture speed would have been,
       probably around 82ish so no danger of it being more than the
       usual offers of disposal should it come to it. Whether I decide
       to do a SAC or the 3 points on an otherwise clean licence I
       haven't thought about yet.
       Camera was a Hadecs 3 as far as I can tell. It was definitely
       mounted at the side of the road as opposed to gantry.
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/EPe836Yd3SHz8sgXA
       M25 eastbound (clockwise) about 2 miles from J22
       #Post#: 78272--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Have I been caught?
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: June 26, 2025, 5:20 am
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       Do you own the vehicle or is it leased? Is your V5 up to date
       and correct in tn every particular with the address?
       Search Google on M25 cameras who issues FPNs? as the seacrh term
       and
       Google AI produces this (which may or may not be accurate)
       --- Quote ---
       > AI Overview
       > Flashed by speed camera on M25 about a month ago but ...
       > Fixed Penalty Notices (FPNs) for offences detected by cameras
       on the M25 are issued by the police force responsible for that
       specific section of the motorway. For the majority of the M25,
       this is the Metropolitan Police and Essex Police. In some areas,
       other forces like Kent Police may also be involved.
       >
       > Elaboration:
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       > Jurisdiction: The M25 is divided into different sections, and
       each section is policed by a specific force.
       >
       > Metropolitan Police: Covers the section of the M25 within
       Greater London.
       > Essex Police: Covers the section of the M25 within Essex.
       > Kent Police: May be involved in the section of the M25 that
       passes through Kent.
       > FPN Issuance: When a camera detects an offense (e.g.,
       speeding, running a red light), the police force responsible for
       that area will investigate and, if appropriate, issue an FPN.
       > Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP): Before an FPN is issued,
       a Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) is typically sent to the
       registered keeper of the vehicle within 14 days of the offense.
       > Fixed Penalty Notices: If the offense is minor and the driver
       is eligible, they may be offered the option of attending a speed
       awareness course instead of receiving points on their license
       and a fine.
       > Types of Cameras: The M25 uses various types of cameras,
       including static speed cameras, average speed cameras, and
       cameras for detecting other offenses like driving through a red
       'X' on smart motorways.
       --- End Quote ---
       Presumably it is possible to telephone the appropriate force and
       enquire whether anything is outstanding against yr reg.mark?
       #Post#: 78283--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Have I been caught?
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: June 26, 2025, 6:49 am
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       Thanks for your reply John, however...
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       > Google AI produces this (which may or may not be accurate)
       --- End Quote ---
       In fairness I did ask if anyone knew, not if anyone knew how to
       use Google. But as the suggestion is it would be the specific
       force for that area I'll phone Herts SCP in Stevenage and ask.
       Cheers,
       Bert.
       #Post#: 78305--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Have I been caught?
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: June 26, 2025, 8:59 am
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       For the sake of completeness, I contacted Herts who do look
       after that section via the live chat and
       --- Quote ---
       > On our systems I cannot see any notices linked to this vehicle
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 78347--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Have I been caught?
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: June 26, 2025, 12:29 pm
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       --- Quote from: BertB link ---
       >
       > For the sake of completeness, I contacted Herts who do look
       after that section via the live chat and
       >
       > [quote]On our systems I cannot see any notices linked to this
       vehicle
       --- End Quote ---
       [/quote]
       As Herts have confirmed they look after that section then print
       off/screenshot their message and keep safe just in case.
       #Post#: 79727--------------------------------------------------
       Can I still receive a PCN?
   DIR By: wilson7121
       Date: July 5, 2025, 3:44 pm
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       So I was parked in double yellows very briefly. (My bad)however
       when I came out the shop the traffic warden was just walking up
       to the front of my car and got his camera out started taking
       pictures as I’m driving off can I still receive A PCN without a
       ticket physically being issued and put on the car?
       #Post#: 79921--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Have I been caught?
   DIR By: Firestone
       Date: July 7, 2025, 8:24 am
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       "Just some preliminery advice
       Late one evening recently, I drove through a temporary 50MPH
       speed limit on the M25 in surrey.  I was doing 56MPH according
       to my digital display speedometer.  I had cruise control on for
       56MPH as I didn't want to annoy lorries who like to go at this
       speed or faster.  A camera on the gantry flashed twice as I
       passed. I know it must have been at my car as my car was the
       only one going through at that time. Am I likely to hear
       anything?  I have heard that just because a camera flashes, it
       doesn't necessarily mean that a photo is taken and also even if
       a photo is taken, if speed is deemed within a possible
       grace/tolerance margin, once again it might not follow that the
       driver will be necessarily pursued?  Just interested to  what
       others think at this stage."
       It's good to be able to report that it's now been 2-weeks + 4
       working days since this incident and I have not heard - the post
       has been for today.
       #Post#: 80034--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Have I been caught?
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: July 8, 2025, 4:03 am
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       Usual point of enforcement would be 57mph and above. At a
       displayed 56 it is likely you were doing slightly under that due
       to over reads.
       Do they sometimes flash with no further action taken. Yes, as
       per my post a few above yours. In my case I contacted Herts CTO
       after 2 weeks and asked them direct via the webchat. They came
       back to say nothing on record.
       That was mainly because I was convinced I was at a speed above
       the point of enforcement and wanted to make sure nothing had got
       lost in the post, but obviously wanted to wait until 14 days had
       lapsed before I poked them.
       #Post#: 80617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Have I been caught?
   DIR By: torte
       Date: July 11, 2025, 10:47 am
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       Driver parked at Chiswick Sainsbury's (London W4 5UT) from 3pm
       to 3.30pm and from 3.55pm to 4.00pm. Maximum stay in the car
       park in 2 hrs, no return within 1 hr. Here's the sign from the
       car park:
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/tVL0lkp
       .
       I'm the registered keeper. Will a parking ticket be sent to me?
       #Post#: 80619--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Have I been caught?
   DIR By: 666
       Date: July 11, 2025, 11:05 am
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       --- Quote from: torte link ---
       >
       > Driver parked at Chiswick Sainsbury's (London W4 5UT) from 3pm
       to 3.30pm and from 3.55pm to 4.00pm. Maximum stay in the car
       park in 2 hrs, no return within 1 hr. Here's the sign from the
       car park:
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/tVL0lkp
       .
       >
       > I'm the registered keeper. Will a parking ticket be sent to
       me?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We can't possibly know.
       If one is indeed sent, it should certainly be to you (though
       there is no limit to the incompetence of the parking companies).
       Are your details on the V5C correct?
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