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Re: Have I been caught?
By: mickR Date: January 18, 2025, 9:27 am
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be aware your speeds indicated speed will in fact be around
2-3mph more than you're actual speed.
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Re: Have I been caught?
By: aardvark Date: January 18, 2025, 11:08 am
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[quote author=mickR link=topic=4.msg53929#msg53929
date=1737214043]
be aware your speeds indicated speed will in fact be around
2-3mph more than you're actual speed.
[/quote]
Yep, I'm aware of that. However, it's still too close for
comfort for me. I hope it falls below their threshold but I
can't be certain that this is the case until the deadline has
passed.
If I'm unlucky, then I'll just take the hit and opt for the
course if it's offered.
I'm more worried about an NIP being sent, it not arriving, and
then me being penalised for failure to provide.
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Re: Have I been caught?
By: mickR Date: January 18, 2025, 11:13 am
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why are you worried that you won't receive the NIP??
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Re: Have I been caught?
By: andy_foster Date: January 18, 2025, 11:14 am
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Don't worry about it. There are far worse things that could
happen that you have no control over.
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Re: Have I been caught?
By: aardvark Date: January 18, 2025, 11:47 am
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[quote author=mickR link=topic=4.msg53953#msg53953
date=1737220409]
why are you worried that you won't receive the NIP??
[/quote]
Like I say in the OP, Royal Mail have been rubbish in my area
for a long time. We go for weeks without any post and then they
deliver a few at once - if they haven’t managed to lose them.
I literally haven’t had any post here since December.
But if Plod say they posted a NIP in time for it to
hypothetically meet the 14-day deadline, then it is deemed
“served”.
As I say, there is no NIP so this is all hypothetical right now.
I'm just wondering about what does happen if a NIP does
eventually show up out of time or (much more worrying) if one
never shows up but eventually something arrives in the post
accusing me of having failed to name a driver for an NIP that I
didn't even receive.
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Re: Have I been caught?
By: nigelbb Date: January 19, 2025, 4:09 am
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[quote author=aardvark link=topic=4.msg53918#msg53918
date=1737209262]
I saw a sign warning of a 50mph speed limit enforced by average
speed cameras and started decelerating for that. At that point,
my speedo was an indicated 59mph (I think), which showed on Waze
as being 57mph (GPS speed). I didn't brake to decelerate, I just
took my foot off the accelerator and let it slow down that way.
I think I was down to an indicated 52mph by the time the
'national speed limit' signs appeared. This stretch of average
speed cameras was far shorter than I expected, which is why I
didn't brake to slow it down further.
[/quote]
If your actual speed was 57mph on hitting the commencement of
the 50mph average speed limit as you were decelerating & didn't
touch the throttle again then your average speed will have been
below 57mph. You won't get a NIP unless your average speed was
57mph or higher as per the usual convention of only charging if
your speed was (speed limit + 10% + 2mph).
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Re: Have I been caught?
By: Hroogar Date: January 19, 2025, 4:24 am
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[quote author=nigelbb link=topic=4.msg54014#msg54014
date=1737281393]
You won't get a NIP unless your average speed was 57mph or
higher as per the usual convention of only charging if your
speed was (speed limit + 10% + 2mph).
[/quote]
Is this still the case? I read somewhere, cannot recall where,
that these allowances had changed?
Sure there is something enshrined in legislation somewhere
whether that be this or some revision.
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Re: Have I been caught?
By: Southpaw82 Date: January 19, 2025, 6:38 am
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[quote author=Hroogar link=topic=4.msg54015#msg54015
date=1737282290]
Is this still the case? I read somewhere, cannot recall where,
that these allowances had changed?
Sure there is something enshrined in legislation somewhere
whether that be this or some revision.
[/quote]
You read it somewhere but you can’t remember where, isn’t a
great source.
No, it’s not enshrined in law and never has been.
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Re: Have I been caught?
By: mickR Date: January 19, 2025, 6:43 am
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there have been some spurious articles claiming this but are not
genuine.
I was told by a [s]muppet[/s] "teacher" at a SAC that there's
"no such thing anymore" and went on to name a police force that
doesn't exist.
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Re: Have I been caught?
By: Hroogar Date: January 19, 2025, 7:52 am
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[quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=4.msg54032#msg54032
date=1737290300]
You read it somewhere but you can’t remember where, isn’t a
great source.
[/quote]
Ever failing memory sadly! I should have posted about it at the
time. Even if it was last week I wouldn't be able to recall it.
[quote author=Southpaw82 link=topic=4.msg54032#msg54032
date=1737290300]
No, it’s not enshrined in law and never has been.
[/quote]
So I did a search again today and this is not the article I read
(which I think may have even been in an online newspaper article
at the time) and this came up!
HTML https://www.startrescue.co.uk/breakdown-cover/motoring-advice/safety-and-security/how-accurate-is-my-speedometer
So I take it that is nonsense too. They mention speedometer
regulations. Maybe Construction and Use Regulations but this
wouldn't amount to an 'allowance' of course.
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