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Re: Have I been caught?
DIR By: mickR
Date: January 18, 2025, 9:27 am
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be aware your speeds indicated speed will in fact be around
2-3mph more than you're actual speed.
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Re: Have I been caught?
DIR By: aardvark
Date: January 18, 2025, 11:08 am
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--- Quote from: mickR link ---
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> be aware your speeds indicated speed will in fact be around
2-3mph more than you're actual speed.
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Yep, I'm aware of that. However, it's still too close for
comfort for me. I hope it falls below their threshold but I
can't be certain that this is the case until the deadline has
passed.
If I'm unlucky, then I'll just take the hit and opt for the
course if it's offered.
I'm more worried about an NIP being sent, it not arriving, and
then me being penalised for failure to provide.
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Re: Have I been caught?
DIR By: mickR
Date: January 18, 2025, 11:13 am
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why are you worried that you won't receive the NIP??
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Re: Have I been caught?
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: January 18, 2025, 11:14 am
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Don't worry about it. There are far worse things that could
happen that you have no control over.
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Re: Have I been caught?
DIR By: aardvark
Date: January 18, 2025, 11:47 am
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--- Quote from: mickR link ---
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> why are you worried that you won't receive the NIP??
>
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Like I say in the OP, Royal Mail have been rubbish in my area
for a long time. We go for weeks without any post and then they
deliver a few at once - if they haven’t managed to lose them.
I literally haven’t had any post here since December.
But if Plod say they posted a NIP in time for it to
hypothetically meet the 14-day deadline, then it is deemed
“served”.
As I say, there is no NIP so this is all hypothetical right now.
I'm just wondering about what does happen if a NIP does
eventually show up out of time or (much more worrying) if one
never shows up but eventually something arrives in the post
accusing me of having failed to name a driver for an NIP that I
didn't even receive.
#Post#: 54014--------------------------------------------------
Re: Have I been caught?
DIR By: nigelbb
Date: January 19, 2025, 4:09 am
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--- Quote from: aardvark link ---
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> I saw a sign warning of a 50mph speed limit enforced by
average speed cameras and started decelerating for that. At that
point, my speedo was an indicated 59mph (I think), which showed
on Waze as being 57mph (GPS speed). I didn't brake to
decelerate, I just took my foot off the accelerator and let it
slow down that way. I think I was down to an indicated 52mph by
the time the 'national speed limit' signs appeared. This stretch
of average speed cameras was far shorter than I expected, which
is why I didn't brake to slow it down further.
>
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If your actual speed was 57mph on hitting the commencement of
the 50mph average speed limit as you were decelerating & didn't
touch the throttle again then your average speed will have been
below 57mph. You won't get a NIP unless your average speed was
57mph or higher as per the usual convention of only charging if
your speed was (speed limit + 10% + 2mph).
#Post#: 54015--------------------------------------------------
Re: Have I been caught?
DIR By: Hroogar
Date: January 19, 2025, 4:24 am
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--- Quote from: nigelbb link ---
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> You won't get a NIP unless your average speed was 57mph or
higher as per the usual convention of only charging if your
speed was (speed limit + 10% + 2mph).
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Is this still the case? I read somewhere, cannot recall where,
that these allowances had changed?
Sure there is something enshrined in legislation somewhere
whether that be this or some revision.
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Re: Have I been caught?
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: January 19, 2025, 6:38 am
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--- Quote from: Hroogar link ---
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>
>
> Is this still the case? I read somewhere, cannot recall where,
that these allowances had changed?
>
> Sure there is something enshrined in legislation somewhere
whether that be this or some revision.
>
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You read it somewhere but you can’t remember where, isn’t a
great source.
No, it’s not enshrined in law and never has been.
#Post#: 54033--------------------------------------------------
Re: Have I been caught?
DIR By: mickR
Date: January 19, 2025, 6:43 am
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there have been some spurious articles claiming this but are not
genuine.
I was told by a muppet "teacher" at a SAC that there's "no such
thing anymore" and went on to name a police force that doesn't
exist.
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Re: Have I been caught?
DIR By: Hroogar
Date: January 19, 2025, 7:52 am
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--- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
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> You read it somewhere but you can’t remember where, isn’t a
great source.
>
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Ever failing memory sadly! I should have posted about it at the
time. Even if it was last week I wouldn't be able to recall it.
--- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
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> No, it’s not enshrined in law and never has been.
>
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So I did a search again today and this is not the article I read
(which I think may have even been in an online newspaper article
at the time) and this came up!
HTML https://www.startrescue.co.uk/breakdown-cover/motoring-advice/safety-and-security/how-accurate-is-my-speedometer
So I take it that is nonsense too. They mention speedometer
regulations. Maybe Construction and Use Regulations but this
wouldn't amount to an 'allowance' of course.
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