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       #Post#: 46743--------------------------------------------------
       PCN Lewisham - Was not aware of penalty charge due to change of
       address
   DIR By: mos1991
       Date: November 23, 2024, 5:40 am
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       I yesterday became aware that I recieved a penalty charge from
       Lewisham Council for an infraction on 25 June. The infraction
       occured shortly after I moved home and so the original PCN was
       sent to my old address. I submitted a change of address via the
       DVLA on 14 July. Speaking to the council on the phone, I have
       been told that they sent a second follow up letter (also to my
       old address) in late July after the change of address was
       submitted to the DVLA. The PCN has now been passed over to a
       debt collection agency, despite the fact I recieved no PCN
       letters to
       the address I was reisding in at the time.
       I've been told that I can apply for an Out Of Time exemption on
       the basis that I did not receive the Penalty Charge Notice, but
       wanted to get an idea of how realistic my prospects are based on
       the information above?
       #Post#: 46744--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Lewisham - Was not aware of penalty charge due to change
       of address
   DIR By: Enceladus
       Date: November 23, 2024, 5:50 am
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       How did you become aware of the PCN? A bailiff visit perhaps, or
       a letter? Did the bailiff leave you a notice or letter of any
       description? If so please post it up.
       Instructions are in the READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR
       CASE!**
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/<br
       />sticky post at the top of the forum. Just redact your name and
       address and leave everything else visible.
       #Post#: 46745--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Lewisham - Was not aware of penalty charge due to change
       of address
   DIR By: mos1991
       Date: November 23, 2024, 6:01 am
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       I became aware of the PCN via a letter from Newlyn, Lewisham's
       debt collection agency. They sent a letter to the new address,
       although I believe this was originally after sending the initial
       enforcement letter to my old address.
       I've attached a photo of the enforcement letter with the address
       and number plate blocked out.
       [attachment deleted by admin]
       #Post#: 46748--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Lewisham - Was not aware of penalty charge due to change
       of address
   DIR By: Neil B
       Date: November 23, 2024, 6:19 am
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       Where is the rest of the NoE?
       #Post#: 46749--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Lewisham - Was not aware of penalty charge due to change
       of address
   DIR By: mos1991
       Date: November 23, 2024, 6:21 am
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       Second page attached
       [attachment deleted by admin]
       #Post#: 47059--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Lewisham - Was not aware of penalty charge due to change
       of address
   DIR By: mos1991
       Date: November 26, 2024, 4:16 am
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       Just to clarify what are my chances of getting this reverted
       back to the original file. I beleive they may have sent follow
       up letters to my old address after I alerted the DVLA of my
       change of address. If I can get evidence of this, would it help
       my case?
       #Post#: 47063--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Lewisham - Was not aware of penalty charge due to change
       of address
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: November 26, 2024, 4:28 am
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       We're missing the key dates.....!
       The infraction occured shortly after I moved home and so the
       original PCN was sent to my old address. I submitted a change of
       address via the DVLA on 14 July.
       And you moved out of your address on ??
       Contravention on 25 June;
       PCN Issued ******?
       You moved on ******?
       You changed your V5C(NOT driving licence but V5C address) with
       DVLA 14 July.
       Just fill in the blanks pl.
       NOTHING will happen as regards Newlyn until the payment date
       (8am 9 Dec) has passed.
       #Post#: 47072--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Lewisham - Was not aware of penalty charge due to change
       of address
   DIR By: mos1991
       Date: November 26, 2024, 5:36 am
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       In terms of a timeline of dates. I moved out of the property on
       19 June.
       The contravention then occured on 25 June.
       I updated my V5C on 14 July.
       According to the council the original PCN was sent to my old
       address on 5 July.
       This was then followed up by a charge certificate issued also
       issued to my old address on 13 August.
       Finally, a third notice (order of recovery) was also sent to my
       old address on September 13.
       For clarity's sake, I learned of the above information (i.e.
       when the correspondence was sent to me by the council's traffic
       enforcement team) via a phonecall with the council yesterday.
       #Post#: 47079--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Lewisham - Was not aware of penalty charge due to change
       of address
   DIR By: Enceladus
       Date: November 26, 2024, 6:26 am
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       --- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
       >
       > How did you become aware of the PCN? A bailiff visit perhaps,
       or a letter? Did the bailiff leave you a notice or letter of any
       description? If so please post it up.
       >
       > Instructions are in the READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING
       YOUR CASE!**
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/<br
       />sticky post at the top of the forum. Just redact your name and
       address and leave everything else visible.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks for posting up the bailiff's Notice of Enforcement.
       However you've blanked out the vehicle reg from the NoE. The
       instructions linked to above asked you not to do this.
       What's the vehicle reg?
       #Post#: 47087--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Lewisham - Was not aware of penalty charge due to change
       of address
   DIR By: mos1991
       Date: November 26, 2024, 7:35 am
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       Licence plate is OE09NHU
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