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Debt Collector chase after N244
DIR By: Fatcockney
Date: November 20, 2024, 3:30 pm
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Hi. Background is: Parking ticket in Chelmsford Council Car
Park. Have a valid ticket but Euro Parks and DCB ignored and
eventually filed a notice against me.
Never had my day in court so filled an N244 and paid a fee for a
hearing along with all evidence and correspondence last month.
No hearing date yet.
Now DCB are asking me for evidence of the valid ticket. Do I
respond to them or point them to the fact that this is now with
the court?
I just feel that they are taking the Mick after what they've
done to date. Appreciate guidance. Cheers
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Re: Debt Collector chase after N244
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: November 20, 2024, 5:37 pm
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Please have a look at the READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING
YOUR CASE!**
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/<br
/>at the top of the forum.
Please post up a copy or photo of the DCB demand that you
referred to. Just redact your name and address.
Right now it's unclear whether this concerns a Council Penalty
Charge Notice, a Council Excess Charge Notice or a private
Parking Charge Notice.
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Re: Debt Collector chase after N244
DIR By: Fatcockney
Date: November 21, 2024, 3:28 am
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It was originally a Council Car Park ticket managed by Euro
Parks with Debt Chased by DCB.
I will post the chase email later when back from work but my
query is really "should I really be chased by them for evidence
of parking, after they instigated County Judgement against me,
and I've submitted a N244 form in response?"
I've read all the N244 guidance and there's nothing on that. My
issue is that, if I respond am I impacting my potential court
hearing, which I never got in the first place. They just
instigated the CCJ proceedings.
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Re: Debt Collector chase after N244
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 21, 2024, 5:24 am
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OP, some hard facts because I suspect that time is not on your
side.
Pl do not seek to limit your thread to questions which you think
are important or which have relevance. You've got free access to
knowledge and experience here so I suggest you let us take the
lead.
But without docs we're blind.
Penalties issued by councils under the TMA don't have a 'day in
court'. It's a decriminalised process. Whereas parking charges
issued by private car park operators under the law of contract
and possibly relying upon the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012
would be determined in court, similarly for the dwindling number
of councils which have not taken on DPE powers and still operate
under the RTA.
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Re: Debt Collector chase after N244
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: November 22, 2024, 3:50 am
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I have been asked to move this to Private Parking Tickets, and I
suspect you have parked in one of these cvar parks
HTML https://www.chelmsford.gov.uk/parking-and-travel/car-parks/meadows-surface-car-park/
which must be a very confusing situation for motorists.
Please identify and name which car park in Chelmsford which you
used, and answer the questions and comments in posts Replies #1
and #3
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Re: Debt Collector chase after N244
DIR By: Fatcockney
Date: November 22, 2024, 4:09 am
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Euro Parks Meadow Surface car park is the one.
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Re: Debt Collector chase after N244
DIR By: Fatcockney
Date: November 22, 2024, 4:11 am
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Not sure what else is outstanding? I have posted the relevant
documents now I hope.
Away for four days now.
#Post#: 46623--------------------------------------------------
Re: Debt Collector chase after N244
DIR By: b789
Date: November 22, 2024, 5:17 am
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Unless we know the original details of the claim made against
you and your subsequent application for a set aside, you are not
helping yourself or us.
We need to see the Particulars of Claim (PoC) of the original
claim. We need to know why you did not respond to that claim or,
if you did, why was a CCJ given? How and when did you find out
about the CCJ? What did you put in your N244 application. Did
you include a Witness Statement (WS)? What did you put in your
WS? Did you include a draft order with your N244 application? If
so, what did you put in that draft order?
Under which Civil Procedure Rule (CPR) are you attempting to get
the CCJ set aside? CPR13.2 and/or CPR 13.3?
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Re: Debt Collector chase after N244
DIR By: Fatcockney
Date: November 27, 2024, 2:22 am
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Ok. Apologies for the delay but have been away since Friday. I
now attach a copy of the PCN from Euro Parks. This gives details
of the offence.
Additional to this I have added the second part of my N244 which
briefly outlines the route of getting to the N244. Please
understand that this has been going on since October 2021 so
there is dozens and dozens of interactions.
Finally, I have added the latest email from DCB. Herein lies my
query.
Why are they now asking for evidence of my parking ticket three
years on, having already made a Claim for Judgement to which
I've responded?
Given it's cost me £308 to challenge this via the N244, should I
even be providing that information at this stage when they have
ignored that so often?
I should add that evidence referenced to in the N244 statement
were all attached to that response.
I'm afraid other than what I've given you, I'm not sure how much
more I can provide. I certainly don't understand the last couple
of points about defence in the previous post. Thank you for
helping me. I'm not a car guru. I'm a single working mother who
feels she isn't being heard and needs support.
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Re: Debt Collector chase after N244
DIR By: Fatcockney
Date: November 27, 2024, 2:25 am
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Apologies. It didn't't attach all three dice in last post
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