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#Post#: 64844--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: March 30, 2025, 4:28 am
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If you want free tribunal representation please email the
unredacted notice of rejection to mrmustard@zoho.com
#Post#: 64845--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: FuzzedRinggit
Date: March 30, 2025, 4:29 am
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Hi MrMustard
I'm happy to go to tribunal myself, as long as I know what I'm
saying?
#Post#: 64864--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: March 30, 2025, 7:25 am
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I would accept Mr Mustard's offer - you can appear jointly.
#Post#: 64867--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: March 30, 2025, 7:49 am
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Another procedural error in the written NOR..
..28 days from the date of service....
No, beginning on!
This error is also reproduced, surprising as it might seem, in
the Your Right to Appeal form.
So, you have two procedural improprieties, one in the NTO and
one in the NOR.
And as the discount hasn't been re-offered it's a no-brainer to
register an appeal.
#Post#: 64885--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 30, 2025, 12:42 pm
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> And as the discount hasn't been re-offered it's a no-brainer
to register an appeal.
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+++111
Total and absolute no-brainer !
#Post#: 65316--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: FuzzedRinggit
Date: April 2, 2025, 2:55 am
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Thanks for your help on this case.
I have just logged on in order to go to the London Tribunals. It
is asking me my reason for appealing.
Do I state the procedural errors (as detailed by Andersen above)
only, or do I also include the lack of signage too which we
ascertained in the first appeal? Do I have to hedge my bets in
these cases?
Thank you,
FR
#Post#: 65389--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 2, 2025, 7:18 am
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It doesn't matter as you'll be putting all grounds into the
appeal. I'd just choose contravention didn't occur.
I would hand it over to Mr Mustard though as he's offered. You
can read his exploits here:
HTML https://lbbspending.blogspot.com
#Post#: 65450--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: FuzzedRinggit
Date: April 2, 2025, 1:09 pm
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Thanks StanfordMan, I have emailed Mr Mustard with the details
after all, much easier to let the experts take over!
#Post#: 78329--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: June 26, 2025, 11:03 am
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One of my six tribunal hearings yesterday. case 2250181269
The Appellant was represented at the hearing by Mr Dishman.
The vehicle was certainly parked marginally outside the bay
markings.
The Traffic Management Order provides as follows :-
14. Every vehicle left in a parking place in accordance with the
foregoing provisions of this Order shall so stand:
(a) in the case of a parking place in relation to which special
provisions as to the manner of standing of a vehicle in that
place are specified in column 6 of the Schedule as to be in
accordance with those provisions;
(b) that every part of the vehicle is within the limits of a
parking space which shall be an appropriate parking place in
relation to the parking device in which has been or should have
been inserted any coin for the purpose of payment of the parking
charge or the displaying of a parking permit.
17 Updated to Amendment No. 120 -202017 (c) in the case of any
other parking place - (Ð if the parking place is not in a
one-way street, that the left or near side of the vehicle is
adjacent to the left hand edge of the carriageway; and that the
distance between the edge of the carriageway and the nearest
wheel of the vehicle is not more than 300 millimetres; (d) that
no part of the vehicle obstructs any vehicular means of ingress
to or egress from any premises adjacent to the side of the road
on which the vehicle is waiting.
This rather unusual wording appears to restrict the requirement
to park within the markings of a bay to payment bays. The
remaining limitations on other cases is in the form of exceeding
a certain measurement from the edge of the carriageway. Whether
or not the vehicle was in breach of such a condition, that is
not the contravention for which the PCN was issued, The
contravention for which the PCN was issued is not supported by
the TMO and the Appeal is therefore allowed.
#Post#: 78374--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: FuzzedRinggit
Date: June 26, 2025, 2:17 pm
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A great result Mr Mustard, and my thanks again for winning for
us!
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