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#Post#: 53189--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: January 13, 2025, 11:59 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> NtOs must be served within 6 months from date of alleged
contravention. This essentially mimics the limit on a summons to
magistrates courts of 6 months.
>
--- End Quote ---
It's actually six months from the date of service of the PCN,
which may or may not be the same as the data of the
contravention.
#Post#: 53200--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 13, 2025, 12:59 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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> [quote author=Incandescent link=topic=3948.msg53180#msg53180
date=1736788663]
> NtOs must be served within 6 months from date of alleged
contravention. This essentially mimics the limit on a summons to
magistrates courts of 6 months.
>
--- End Quote ---
It's actually six months from the date of service of the PCN,
which may or may not be the same as the data of the
contravention.
[/quote]
Sorry I got this a bit wrong !
#Post#: 53202--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: January 13, 2025, 1:03 pm
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Actually, the 'relevant date' is the date on which the PCN was
served.
2) A notice to owner may not be served after the expiry of the
period of 6 months beginning with the relevant date.
d)in any other case, is the date on which the relevant penalty
charge notice was served under regulation 9.
#Post#: 53203--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: Grant Urismo
Date: January 13, 2025, 1:05 pm
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--- Quote from: mickR link ---
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> [quote author=Grant Urismo link=topic=3948.msg53131#msg53131
date=1736767371]
> Only the people at the council know how busy they are. There's
no imminent statutory deadline, so you just have to wait.
>
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er, no it's 6 months
[/quote]
...which isn't imminent, so the OP just has to wait.
#Post#: 53215--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: FuzzedRinggit
Date: January 13, 2025, 3:41 pm
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Then if I don't get it after 6 months what happens? Does it
automatically get cancelled? :D :D :D :D
#Post#: 53224--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 13, 2025, 5:06 pm
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--- Quote from: FuzzedRinggit link ---
>
> Then if I don't get it after 6 months what happens? Does it
automatically get cancelled? :D :D :D :D
>
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They may try it on, and serve one to you, but if its over the
time limit, you just submit reps that it is Out-of-Time, and
they should then cancel it. If they don't you take them to
London Tribunals, win, and ask for costs because they would have
passed the test of acting "wholly unreasonably".
#Post#: 57012--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: FuzzedRinggit
Date: February 6, 2025, 3:42 pm
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So this letter arrived today. The letter makes it sound like
that because it's free to park, they don't need a Parking 'P'
sign. Is that true?
What do I do now? It doesn't make it clear what I need to do
other than pay it which I'm presuming I shouldn't do!!
Thanks for your help everyone.
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#Post#: 57014--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: February 6, 2025, 4:24 pm
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The letter makes it sound like that because it's free to park,
they don't need a Parking 'P' sign. Is that true?
Free for what class of vehicles, motorcycles, HGVs, buses, taxis
etc?
It's nonsense and they either know and are being deceitful or
don't know and are being stupid. Either is not acceptable for a
public body empowered to penalise motorists.
Carry on IMO.
There's another current thread where the authority adopted the
General Melchett approach(Blackadder Goes Forth) i.e. 'If
nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look
facts in the face will see us [the authority] through' only to
cancel the PCN once the owner on our advice had registered their
appeal with the adjudicator at which point the authority, as
with all bullies who suddenly realise that they're no longer
judges in their own cause, cancelled the PCN.
But when they do in your case don't expect an apology.
#Post#: 57035--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: FuzzedRinggit
Date: February 7, 2025, 12:59 am
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;D
I am particularly liking the General Melchett analogy!
I will carry on and appeal further, and of course update here. I
wish there was a compensation scheme for the amount of time this
has taken but more to the point, I'm not vulnerable and I can
spend the time and effort battling this. There are thousands of
people who must be trapped in having to pay an illegal ticket,
and that's not fair.
Thanks again for your help Mr Andersen.
#Post#: 57400--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
markings of the bay?
DIR By: FuzzedRinggit
Date: February 10, 2025, 5:53 am
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Hello all
This may seem like a silly question, but I am going to appeal
this officially but I can't work out how to do it?
There's nothing on the letter that came back with my appeal and
when I log on to the Bromley website it just asks about an
'appeal' which I've already done.
If I am taking this further, where do I go to lodge the appeal
please?
Thank you.
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