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       #Post#: 51558--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
       markings of the bay?
   DIR By: FuzzedRinggit
       Date: January 1, 2025, 1:45 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > This should be hopeless for them because as we've established
       the bays must have parking signs unless there is a bay marking
       that shows a single restriction operating at all times.
       >
       > This is nothing to do with whether the bay is in a CPZ or not.
       >
       > So I don't think the bay meets the status of one that can be
       defined by a traffic order and hence subject to policing of its
       boundary.
       >
       > See what Mr Anderson says.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Mr Anderson?
       #Post#: 51570--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
       markings of the bay?
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: January 1, 2025, 6:02 am
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       Mind-blowing ignorance.
       I'd be tempted to reply.
       Dear Sir,
       PCN ******
       Thank you for your letter dated **** rejecting my
       representations made on ***.
       I have read the letter and should be grateful for clarification
       of your reasoning in order to inform any formal representations.
       Is it the authority's position that the road markings at issue
       are not required to have an associated upright traffic sign to
       indicate the times of any parking restriction, whether payment
       is required and whether reserved to specified users but that any
       motorist should and is required to infer that the timings align
       with those for the adjacent yellow lines, that payment is not
       required and that any class of vehicle may park simply based
       upon the placement and content of 'controlled parking zone'
       signs.
       Could you also explain your comment that 'You have 28 days from
       the date of this Notice[Notice of Rejection] to do this[that is
       to pay £60]'. As I understand it, a penalty charge of £60 may be
       paid at any time up to 14 days having expired following service
       of a NOR on the owner pursuant to unsuccessful formal
       representations having been made.
       Yours...
       #Post#: 51572--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
       markings of the bay?
   DIR By: FuzzedRinggit
       Date: January 1, 2025, 6:15 am
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       Thanks for this gentlemen, I will take this to appeal and also
       write the letter... although the reply says that they won't
       enter into correspondence, I am tempted to just send the letter
       anyway and see what they come up with...
       I will update what happens!
       #Post#: 51578--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
       markings of the bay?
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: January 1, 2025, 7:49 am
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       I see you now know Mr Anderson - he knows a fairy tale when he
       sees one.
       The next step is to wait for the NTO and make representations
       (not an appeal - that's when you go to the tribunal).
       Are the V5C logbook name and address correct.
       You may as well send that clarification email - it will form the
       basis of reps if they ignore it.
       #Post#: 51596--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
       markings of the bay?
   DIR By: FuzzedRinggit
       Date: January 1, 2025, 9:52 am
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       Hi StamfordMan
       I have already sent the email to Bromley with the exact wording.
       Do they have to reply within a certain amount of time?
       The V5C logbook etc are all correct. Nothing has changed in many
       years!
       Judging by the letter's wording about the slow reply and how lax
       they have been, I imagine they won't!
       Thanks again everyone.
       #Post#: 51599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
       markings of the bay?
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: January 1, 2025, 9:56 am
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       They don't have to reply and may just issue the NTO in due
       course.
       #Post#: 53125--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
       markings of the bay?
   DIR By: FuzzedRinggit
       Date: January 13, 2025, 4:31 am
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       Hi
       does anyone know how long it takes to issue the NTO? I've still
       not heard anything!
       Thank you.
       #Post#: 53131--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
       markings of the bay?
   DIR By: Grant Urismo
       Date: January 13, 2025, 5:22 am
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       --- Quote from: FuzzedRinggit link ---
       >
       > Hi
       >
       > does anyone know how long it takes to issue the NTO?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Only the people at the council know how busy they are. There's
       no imminent statutory deadline, so you just have to wait.
       #Post#: 53180--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
       markings of the bay?
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: January 13, 2025, 11:17 am
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       NtOs must be served within 6 months from date of alleged
       contravention. This essentially mimics the limit on a summons to
       magistrates courts of 6 months.
       #Post#: 53183--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley - PCN is this Not Parking Correctly within the
       markings of the bay?
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: January 13, 2025, 11:37 am
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       --- Quote from: Grant Urismo link ---
       >
       > [quote author=FuzzedRinggit link=topic=3948.msg53125#msg53125
       date=1736764298]
       > Hi
       >
       > does anyone know how long it takes to issue the NTO?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Only the people at the council know how busy they are. There's
       no imminent statutory deadline, so you just have to wait.
       [/quote]
       er, no it's 6 months
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