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#Post#: 70384--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave
DIR By: Saj_87
Date: May 7, 2025, 7:17 am
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--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
>
> The amount outstanding as of today is £165. So it seems
unlikely that the Council have sent an Order for Recovery. That
would have added a £10 registration fee to the amount
outstanding making it £175
>
> Wait for the OfR. And keep an eye on the amount outstanding,
that will tell you that an OfR has been sent even if it hasn't
been delivered yet. You should also periodically phone the TEC
(Traffic Enforcement Centre at Northampton County Court) and
check the status.
>
> There is a guide to your situation on the Forum. Have a read
and follow the instructions. Charge certificate cases under the
Traffic Management Act 2004 - no original PCN or Notice to Owner
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificate-cases-under-the-traffic-management-act-2004-no-original-pcn/
>
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Thank you so much! how did you check the amount which is
outstanding? Getting fed up waiting and unsure of what to do!
#Post#: 81532--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave
DIR By: Saj_87
Date: July 18, 2025, 3:01 am
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Good Morning all
I have been trying to chase Havering Council for a while, sent
multiple emails to them and finally got a reply back yesterday
from a message which I sent back in March.
This is the reply which I received via email
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Furthermore I have been calling the TEC line and the debt is
still not registered.
Any suggestions would be greatful
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#Post#: 81906--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave
DIR By: Saj_87
Date: July 21, 2025, 6:44 am
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Furthermore, I have had no other letters in the post either from
anyone
#Post#: 81921--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: July 21, 2025, 8:04 am
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What a load of b*****. Quasi-judicial process indeed. It's a
statutory process as created by Parliament. And the London
Councils have nothing to do with the process.
Anyway you have to wait until the eejits register the debt with
the TEC and an Order for Recovery (of unpaid penalty charge) is
authorised. That will increase the amount outstanding by £10,
the Court registration fee.
You can then submit (file) the Witness Statement that will be
attached to the OfR, or download the form
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/62e1492bd3bf7f2d789b8d7e/Parking_TE9.pdf,<br
/>to the Traffic Enforcement Centre (TEC) at Northampton County
Court to the effect that you did not receive the Notice to
Owner. Counter-intuitively for the purposes of such forms you
are the Respondent and the Council is the Applicant.
The TEC will issue an Order revoking the OfR and cancelling the
Charge Cert. The Council will have to re-serve the NTO in order
to continue enforcement.
You can then challenge the replacement NTO in the normal manner,
if indeed the Council are incompetent enough to serve one, on
the grounds that the replacement NTO is served out of time and a
procedural impropriety has occurred and probably other reasons.
If they reject then you can appeal to the Independent
Adjudicator where you will prevail.
#Post#: 116172--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave
DIR By: Kam86
Date: April 17, 2026, 8:26 am
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Hi all,
I hope everyone's well. My message was to
[member=3436]Saj_87[/member] how did it all go, was the ticket
dismissed. I have seen someone get their ticket cancelled on
Facebook but just thought id ask.
I got this last friday and just submitted an appeal. I parked in
a residential street and the back of my bumper was just near the
slope bit but the actually bit where the kerb comes to the
carriageway level was completely clear.
it feels like a resident tried their luck seeing a traffic
warden going past and getting my car ticketed. its not somewhere
I often park and just really annoying. I read the relevant
legislation and can see that where the kerb is at carriageway
level and a vehicle blocks it that that would result in a
ticket.
good to know how other users have had their appeals and
challenges go.
thanks in advance.
#Post#: 119717--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave
DIR By: Saj_87
Date: May 25, 2026, 4:38 pm
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--- Quote from: Kam86 link ---
>
> Hi all,
>
> I hope everyone's well. My message was to
[member=3436]Saj_87[/member] how did it all go, was the ticket
dismissed. I have seen someone get their ticket cancelled on
Facebook but just thought id ask.
>
> I got this last friday and just submitted an appeal. I parked
in a residential street and the back of my bumper was just near
the slope bit but the actually bit where the kerb comes to the
carriageway level was completely clear.
>
> it feels like a resident tried their luck seeing a traffic
warden going past and getting my car ticketed. its not somewhere
I often park and just really annoying. I read the relevant
legislation and can see that where the kerb is at carriageway
level and a vehicle blocks it that that would result in a
ticket.
>
> good to know how other users have had their appeals and
challenges go.
>
> thanks in advance.
>
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Good evening [member=8756]Kam86[/member]
So,to give you an update I heard nothing back from the council
until 4 days ago. They sent me a letter out with debit recovery
after 2 years! So I still need some advice
#Post#: 119719--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave
DIR By: Saj_87
Date: May 25, 2026, 4:57 pm
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So quick update, nearly after 2 years I have received the
following letter from Havering council.
HTML https://ibb.co/Y762JcDW
HTML https://ibb.co/cKGW5jW9
HTML https://ibb.co/99f17ZsC
HTML https://ibb.co/21PRNMVm
I would be very grateful for any advice or support
#Post#: 119733--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 26, 2026, 4:25 am
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So to recap, you didn't get a notice to owner?
If so you can now file the witness statement saying you didn't
get it.
You can do it with this online TE9 form and email it to TEC.
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/62e14db38fa8f5649f912647/TE9.pdf
#Post#: 119735--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave
DIR By: tincombe
Date: May 26, 2026, 5:03 am
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+1, just insert your name, tick the box, sign and email. We
suggest you copy to yourself, this way you know it's been
delivered.
Any questions just ask. The deadline is the date in the box.
#Post#: 119737--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 26, 2026, 5:34 am
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The details in the TE3 need to be carefully entered on the TE9
though.
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