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       #Post#: 63541--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
       enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave 
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: March 20, 2025, 6:19 pm
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       They've handed you victory on a plate.
       IMO, write back to them and do not bother about following the
       procedural route..you could still do this if necessary, but
       let's cut to the chase.
       PCN ******* 12 Nov. 2024
       I refer to the above regulation 9 PCN issued to my car on 12
       Nov. 2024.
       I also refer you to your letter dated 9 January 2025 rejecting
       my informal representations.
       I further refer you to your Charge Certificate issued on 18
       March 2025 on the grounds that you had issued a Notice to Owner
       on 12 November 2024, the same day that you issued the PCN.
       For whatever reason, your notice procedures have failed and
       rather than wait for the Order for Recovery, Witness Statement,
       revocation order, NTO, formal representations and your
       cancellation of the PCN, either at this stage or on the
       subsequent direction of the adjudicator, I request that you
       cancel the PCN now.
       #Post#: 63590--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
       enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave 
   DIR By: Saj_87
       Date: March 21, 2025, 7:05 am
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       --- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
       >
       > They've handed you victory on a plate.
       >
       > IMO, write back to them and do not bother about following the
       procedural route..you could still do this if necessary, but
       let's cut to the chase.
       >
       >
       > PCN ******* 12 Nov. 2024
       >
       > I refer to the above regulation 9 PCN issued to my car on 12
       Nov. 2024.
       >
       > I also refer you to your letter dated 9 January 2025 rejecting
       my informal representations.
       >
       > I further refer you to your Charge Certificate issued on 18
       March 2025 on the grounds that you had issued a Notice to Owner
       on 12 November 2024, the same day that you issued the PCN.
       >
       > For whatever reason, your notice procedures have failed and
       rather than wait for the Order for Recovery, Witness Statement,
       revocation order, NTO, formal representations and your
       cancellation of the PCN, either at this stage or on the
       subsequent direction of the adjudicator, I request that you
       cancel the PCN now.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Good Afternoon,
       Ive just looked at the Charge Certificate and the only way to
       contact them is via telephone. Shall I try via the Havering.gov
       website or write to them? Any suggestion would be grateful
       Kind regards
       #Post#: 63602--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
       enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 21, 2025, 7:46 am
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       You could try this:
  HTML https://havering-self.achieveservice.com/service/lbh-Parking-PCN-Online-enquiry-form
       #Post#: 63905--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
       enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave 
   DIR By: Saj_87
       Date: March 24, 2025, 3:08 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > You could try this:
       >
       >
  HTML https://havering-self.achieveservice.com/service/lbh-Parking-PCN-Online-enquiry-form
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thank you very much for your help, I've just submitted the an
       online reply and stated what H C Andersen instructed me to do.
       Now the question is, shall I wait for a few days and call them
       up ? or wait for a reply back from their online form enquiry.
       Dealing with this has giving me so much anxiety  :(
       #Post#: 63954--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
       enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave 
   DIR By: Grant Urismo
       Date: March 24, 2025, 11:14 am
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       Wait for a reply.
       We never advise calling, because the chances of you getting
       trough to someone who has the authority and skills to answer
       complex legal questions is zero, and you'll also have zero proof
       of whatever they say to you during the call.
       Always get things in writing!
       #Post#: 64011--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
       enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave 
   DIR By: Saj_87
       Date: March 25, 2025, 3:05 am
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       --- Quote from: Grant Urismo link ---
       >
       > Wait for a reply.
       >
       > We never advise calling, because the chances of you getting
       trough to someone who has the authority and skills to answer
       complex legal questions is zero, and you'll also have zero proof
       of whatever they say to you during the call.
       >
       > Always get things in writing!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Appreciate the info, Im just worried that the debt will be
       handed over to the debt recovery agents and will be chasing me
       up.
       #Post#: 64027--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
       enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave 
   DIR By: Daim456
       Date: March 25, 2025, 5:47 am
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       --- Quote from: Saj_87 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Grant Urismo link=topic=3937.msg63954#msg63954
       date=1742832851]
       > Wait for a reply.
       >
       > We never advise calling, because the chances of you getting
       trough to someone who has the authority and skills to answer
       complex legal questions is zero, and you'll also have zero proof
       of whatever they say to you during the call.
       >
       > Always get things in writing!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Appreciate the info, Im just worried that the debt will be
       handed over to the debt recovery agents and will be chasing me
       up.
       [/quote]
       They would have to send a letter labelled Order for Recovery
       first.
       They cannot send it until 4th April 2025.
       I am not sure if you can see amount due on the Counci's website,
       if you see the amount due goes up by £10 to £175 then that means
       your debt is registered with Traffic Enforcement Centre.
       They cannot send enforcement officers until 3 weeks after the
       date of Order for Recovery.
       #Post#: 65117--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
       enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave 
   DIR By: Saj_87
       Date: April 1, 2025, 4:55 am
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       I called the number on the letter, it was an automated voice
       message and it stated the following;
       After receiving the Charge Certificate, ill have to wait for the
       order for recovery which is issues after 28 days of receiving
       the Charge Certificate. Then I will receive NTO.
       If anyone wants to listen to the helpline, dial 01708432787
       Press 1 and then 3
       #Post#: 70349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
       enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave 
   DIR By: Saj_87
       Date: May 7, 2025, 2:18 am
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       Morning all, its been over a month still and I have not heard
       anything from the council, No letters, No calls . . Does it
       still take this long?
       #Post#: 70354--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN Havering Borough - Code 27, Parked in a special
       enforcement area adjacent to drop kerb - Grenfell Ave 
   DIR By: Enceladus
       Date: May 7, 2025, 3:35 am
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       The amount outstanding as of today is £165. So it seems unlikely
       that the Council have sent an Order for Recovery. That would
       have added a £10 registration fee to the amount outstanding
       making it £175
       Wait for the OfR. And keep an eye on the amount outstanding,
       that will tell you that an OfR has been sent even if it hasn't
       been delivered yet. You should also periodically phone the TEC
       (Traffic Enforcement Centre at Northampton County Court) and
       check the status.
       There is a guide to your situation on the Forum. Have a read and
       follow the instructions. Charge certificate cases under the
       Traffic Management Act 2004 - no original PCN or Notice to Owner
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