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#Post#: 45934--------------------------------------------------
14 days period, reduced by 50%
DIR By: chand
Date: November 17, 2024, 3:38 pm
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I parked my car in a double yellow line for 2-3 min. When I
returned the officer had booked PCN and gave it to me.
I am ready to pay 50% of the amount , £65 and close the PCN. But
initially waiting for the PCN letter to come by post like other
PCN to make 50% payment. This is the first time received PCN
directly from the officer.
Then I realised that may be not letter will come this time
because I received the PCN on the spot. When I tried to make a
payment today ( 17/11/2024) it says £135 as outstanding.
PCN booked on 25/10/2024
What shall I do ? Pay the full amount of £135 and close the PCN
? Any other options.
Thanks
HTML https://parking.newham.gov.uk/pages/OnlineNoticeReview.aspx
PN39934928, RM03JOE
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#Post#: 45944--------------------------------------------------
Re: 14 days period, reduced by 50%
DIR By: mickR
Date: November 17, 2024, 5:24 pm
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pcn clearly states the time scale to take advantage of the 50%
discount
14days from the date of the notice which was 25.10.24
#Post#: 45950--------------------------------------------------
Re: 14 days period, reduced by 50%
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 17, 2024, 6:31 pm
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Please tell us why you parked on the double-yellow lines.
As you've lost the discount option, there is no point in
paying-up immediately. Please post a GSV link to the exact
location where you parked.
If it turns out from our investigations that you should not have
parked there and the PCN was correctly served, then as a
fall-back I would suggest you submit representations stating you
misunderstood the meaning of the PCN handed to you by the CEO,
as all PCNs you had previously received had been received by
post and you expected the same with this PCN.
So advice is do not pay at the moment, but let us investigate
first. You have 28 days from the PCN date to pay so some a few
days to go yet.
#Post#: 45968--------------------------------------------------
Re: 14 days period, reduced by 50%
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 18, 2024, 3:20 am
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...28 days beginning on 25 Oct = 21 Nov.
But there's no point in paying, what you should do however is
make initial reps against the PCN provided they're received by
28th.
This has 2 advantages:
It gives you and us more time to see what's what - after
submitting, nothing happens procedurally until they reply/or
you* receive a NTO;
They might re-offer the discount in their reply anyway.
*- are you the registered keeper with current DVLA details?
I'm not certain that admitting to (multiple!) previous PCNs is a
good approach tactically!
So, a week to assess the whys and wherefores.
Over to you.
#Post#: 46777--------------------------------------------------
Re: 14 days period, reduced by 50%
DIR By: chand
Date: November 23, 2024, 10:09 am
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I thought replied back on this PCN few days back 2 times. But I
can't see my replies. So posting again.
Why parked on yellow lines ? : Blue batch was in use during the
parking. But the officer said can't park where there are yellow
marking on the kerb. Please see the pictures ( kerbPic1 and
KerbPicWithCar ) there are no visible marking on the kerb where
the car was parked.
contravention code: 02 : waiting and loading/unloading
restrictions are in force
I was in the car when the officer booked the PCN. But I can't
see myself in the picture, that is strange !! .
Google map view link :
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5337382,0.0578793,3a,75y,234.79h,57.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s928KHK0smWUQrqQPyt-VCg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D32.05116011813739%26panoid%3D928KHK0smWUQrqQPyt-VCg%26yaw%3D234.79354921562057!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTExOS4yIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Can I appeal on the basis of code 02 but no kerb marking where
the car was parked ?
Thanks
Thanks
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#Post#: 46779--------------------------------------------------
Re: 14 days period, reduced by 50%
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: November 23, 2024, 10:31 am
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Your GSV link shows that there are double yellow kerb dashes as
well as the double yellow lines where you parked, albeit some
are a bit worn. The double yellow kerb dashes mean no loading at
any time. So it doesn't look good.
Why did you park there?
#Post#: 46794--------------------------------------------------
Re: 14 days period, reduced by 50%
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 23, 2024, 1:50 pm
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The iniquity of allowing double kerb blips without a sign is
plainly obvious is this case. Whereas the double-yellow lines
shout out their presence for some distance the kerb blips are
badly maintained and in my view, not enforceable in this case,
because a BB holder should not have to walk the street to find
out. However it would be a matter of taking the council to
London Tribunals and risking the full PCN penalty
#Post#: 46802--------------------------------------------------
Re: 14 days period, reduced by 50%
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: November 23, 2024, 3:52 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> The iniquity of allowing double kerb blips without a sign is
plainly obvious is this case. Whereas the double-yellow lines
shout out their presence for some distance the kerb blips are
badly maintained and in my view, not enforceable in this case,
because a BB holder should not have to walk the street to find
out. However it would be a matter of taking the council to
London Tribunals and risking the full PCN penalty
>
--- End Quote ---
There is a "no loading" sign. It's at the corner of the street.
One of the evidence photos show the sign.
#Post#: 46810--------------------------------------------------
Re: 14 days period, reduced by 50%
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 23, 2024, 6:22 pm
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--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
>
> [quote author=Incandescent link=topic=3919.msg46794#msg46794
date=1732391456]
> The iniquity of allowing double kerb blips without a sign is
plainly obvious is this case. Whereas the double-yellow lines
shout out their presence for some distance the kerb blips are
badly maintained and in my view, not enforceable in this case,
because a BB holder should not have to walk the street to find
out. However it would be a matter of taking the council to
London Tribunals and risking the full PCN penalty
>
--- End Quote ---
There is a "no loading" sign. It's at the corner of the street.
One of the evidence photos show the sign.
[/quote]
Ah, right. However, a BB holder parking there is only alert to
the No Loading restriction by the presence of yellow kerb blips.
What we don't know is the present state of these blips, with GSV
latest being March 2022.
So, OP, over to you to do some photogrqphy.
#Post#: 46818--------------------------------------------------
Re: 14 days period, reduced by 50%
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 24, 2024, 4:32 am
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If you have made reps before a NTO lands on your* mat then these
must still be considered. You are past the 28-day period which
means they're able to issue a NTO.
*- who is the registered keeper because they would be served
with the NTO?
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