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#Post#: 3540--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
DIR By: guest303
Date: August 19, 2023, 3:28 pm
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--- Quote from: Boomer link ---
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> [quote author=PhoenixBoi link=topic=390.msg3535#msg3535
date=1692469870]
> [quote author=Boomer link=topic=390.msg3534#msg3534
date=1692469469]
> [quote author=Twitcher link=topic=390.msg3413#msg3413
date=1692281011]
> Most of Manchester’s boozers are now cashless, it works in the
landlords favour if you don’t see actual cash leaving your
pocket you don’t get that sense what a waste of money so just
tap tap away with your card.
>
--- End Quote ---
Is this really true?
I'll be giving Manchester a wide berth "forever" now - i can't
beleive that Northerners are so stupid :(
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At least we can spell ´believe´ correctly,,,,,,sorry couldn´t
resist ::) ::) ::) .
I should have said town centre boozers tbh.
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I was actually born quite a few miles north of Madchester(sp)
;), but seriously, are their town (city) centre pubs really
cashless?
Sounds like we need to move the "Watford Gap" dividing line to
the M62 or even further!!!
[/quote]
I was attending Minshull Street Court (as a cps witness lol) for
two weeks last summer and all the big popular pubs/bars eateries
in the centre were cashless.
#Post#: 3828--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
DIR By: sparx
Date: August 24, 2023, 4:12 pm
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The terminals can almost certainly be set up to work "offline",
so maybe just poor planning on behalf of the organisers /
retailers.
easyJet took €3 from my Google Pay at 40,000ft so if they can,
everyone should be able to!
#Post#: 3832--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: August 24, 2023, 5:04 pm
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--- Quote from: sparxy link ---
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> The terminals can almost certainly be set up to work "offline"
>
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Some of them can. It depends on the device, and whether the
service provider for the card machine allows it I believe (so
some of the cheaper ones used by smaller businesses etc. might
not work offline).
The main downside of using one offline though is that the
transaction isn't actually processed whilst the machine is
offline. It is stored and processed once the device is back
online. The clear downside here is that if a customer's card is
declined for whatever reason, the merchant will only discover
this when the customer is already long-gone.
--- Quote from: sparxy link ---
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> easyJet took €3 from my Google Pay at 40,000ft
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At least one flight I took this year with either Ryanair or
EasyJet had in-flight WiFi - it could only be used to access the
in-flight duty free menu and some advertising for the
airline/destination, but nevertheless suggests they have
internet access which could presumably be used for processing
card transactions (these use very little bandwidth). If not, and
they're using them offline, the risk of a card declining
post-landing is presumably reduced by the fact that they can
record which seat numbers order what, and then chase up any
customers whose payment doesn't go through.
#Post#: 3834--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: August 24, 2023, 6:26 pm
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Most don’t process in real time, which is why many airlines
won’t allow payment with pre-pay cards etc.
#Post#: 3856--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 25, 2023, 8:17 am
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Was on a GWR train from Bristol to Paddington recently,
apparently the card machines were down so they had to shut the
refreshments service. I wonder how much that cost them.
Frankly I'm coming round to the view that Parliament should
simply legislate to mandate that anyone accepting payment at an
in-person transaction must accept cash in a manner that is no
less advantageous than other payment methods that are accepted
(i.e. at no additional cost to the customer). After all, Visa
and Mastercard mandate through terms and conditions that card
payments must be no less advantageous than any other payment
method offered, so there's no reason why the Crown shouldn't do
the same through force of law.
#Post#: 4190--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
DIR By: sparx
Date: August 30, 2023, 7:54 pm
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
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> At least one flight I took this year with either Ryanair or
EasyJet had in-flight WiFi - it could only be used to access the
in-flight duty free menu and some advertising for the
airline/destination, but nevertheless suggests they have
internet access which could presumably be used for processing
card transactions (these use very little bandwidth). If not, and
they're using them offline, the risk of a card declining
post-landing is presumably reduced by the fact that they can
record which seat numbers order what, and then chase up any
customers whose payment doesn't go through.
>
--- End Quote ---
I was hoping my easyJet flight was one of these with it, but
alas it wasn't. Was going to have a snoop round it.
I believe, from what they say in their duty free menu thing and
online on easyJet at least, that it's just a "local" wifi
network, there's no internet connection at all, your devices
just talk to a local Wifi AP / very expensive "aircraft grade"
raspberry pi... The advertising is almost certainly cached
locally too.
easyJet actually state that the card payments are processed
"offline". My Barclaycard actually got declined (surprisingly),
but Monzo via Google Pay all fine and went through first time.
#Post#: 12109--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
DIR By: guest968
Date: December 8, 2023, 3:01 pm
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--- Quote from: Boomer link ---
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> are their town (city) centre pubs really cashless?
>
--- End Quote ---
Depends how fast you can run.
#Post#: 12122--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
DIR By: peek
Date: December 9, 2023, 5:24 am
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Also agree!
There is a Law(?) that both Debit and Credit cards must be
accepted on the same terms as each other - a few years ago if I
have this right.
So why not add that Cash must also be accepted on the same
basis.
Incidentally, even if an outlet says they don't accept cash, I
do wonder what they would do if you take an item and leave the
right change on the counter and walk out. To me that is a
perfectly legal act?
#Post#: 12126--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: December 9, 2023, 6:22 am
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What if I decide that your car is worth £50, leave £50 and take
your car. Equally legal.
#Post#: 12173--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
DIR By: peek
Date: December 10, 2023, 2:13 pm
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I might report a part-stolen car to the police and not let you
have the V5C
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