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       #Post#: 45469--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SJP, and now Collection Order for failure to provide driver
       info - i never received any NiP!
   DIR By: 666
       Date: November 13, 2024, 11:03 am
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       --- Quote from: Zebra1234 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=BertB link=topic=3879.msg45399#msg45399
       date=1731495846]
       > A stat dec is for people who were not aware of proceedings
       against them. From your own OP, you received a SJPN and
       contacted the Police about it. I'm not sure you can swear under
       oath that you were not aware of any proceedings against you on
       that basis.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I could swear i didn't know about the proceedings until November
       11th, which was past the deadline (28days after Oct 4th)
       [/quote]
       That would be unwise, since you've told us on the 13th that you
       discovered the SJP "yesterday".
       #Post#: 45474--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SJP, and now Collection Order for failure to provide driver
       info - i never received any NiP!
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: November 13, 2024, 11:16 am
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       If you are thinking of pleading not guilty (on the basis that
       you - personally - did not receive any of the correspondence) I
       think you are in for disappointment. Having no recollection of
       having received any of the four items said to have been sent is
       not the same as not having received them and your description of
       the way you finally found out about this is unlikely to sway a
       court your way. Was your wife deliberately withholding your
       post?
       --- Quote ---
       > That would be unwise, since you've told us on the 13th that
       you discovered the SJP "yesterday".
       --- End Quote ---
       The first post was in the early hours (1:38am) today (13th). I
       assumed that when the OP said "today" he received this, that and
       the other, he really meant the 12th but called it "today" as he
       hadn't yet gone to bed. He would have been unlikely to have
       received those items between midnight and 1:38am.
       #Post#: 45477--------------------------------------------------
       Re: SJP, and now Collection Order for failure to provide driver
       info - i never received any NiP!
   DIR By: Zebra1234
       Date: November 13, 2024, 11:32 am
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       --- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
       >
       > If you are thinking of pleading not guilty (on the basis that
       you - personally - did not receive any of the correspondence) I
       think you are in for disappointment. Having no recollection of
       having received any of the four items said to have been sent is
       not the same as not having received them and your description of
       the way you finally found out about this is unlikely to sway a
       court your way. Was your wife deliberately withholding your
       post?
       >
       > [quote]That would be unwise, since you've told us on the 13th
       that you discovered the SJP "yesterday".
       --- End Quote ---
       The first post was in the early hours (1:38am) today (13th). I
       assumed that when the OP said "today" he received this, that and
       the other, he really meant the 12th but called it "today" as he
       hadn't yet gone to bed. He would have been unlikely to have
       received those items between midnight and 1:38am.
       [/quote]
       Exactly, thank you
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