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#Post#: 44878--------------------------------------------------
Wrong location on NIP
DIR By: frazzy123
Date: November 10, 2024, 7:26 am
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Hello,
Recently got a NIP with what I think is the wrong location.
What should I do next? Mobile van on a C-Road when the NIP says
'high street'.
Got 3 photos in all from the speed van. Two of them were within
the speed limit (closer up) and one was not (not by much,
further away). Weird?
Thnx
#Post#: 44885--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong location on NIP
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: November 10, 2024, 8:04 am
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What is the location?
Do you know where you were caught?
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Re: Wrong location on NIP
DIR By: d612
Date: November 10, 2024, 8:23 am
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Many roads can be labelled as either.
The B4445 in Thame Oxfordshire is also called Park Street
The (Dreadful) Botley Rd in Oxford is actually the A420.
It is possible that the Camera van had not updated its location
data from its last position (seen on here before) so in this
case maybe the mobile van was previously on the High Street of
some town and then moved to the C class road location but did
not change the label.
If indeed they are totally different positions and the C Class
road is not just another label for the high street in question
you should have a getout clause for proceedural errors in the
NIP.
#Post#: 44899--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong location on NIP
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: November 10, 2024, 9:27 am
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--- Quote from: d612 link ---
>
> If indeed they are totally different positions and the C Class
road is not just another label for the high street in question
you should have a getout clause for proceedural errors in the
NIP.
>
--- End Quote ---
Please elaborate...
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Re: Wrong location on NIP
DIR By: d612
Date: November 10, 2024, 11:25 am
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Well I would have thought it was fairly simple "IF" they are two
seperate locations
Suppose the the person was caught doing excess speed on the said
C class rural road while the NIP/172 notice requested that the
registered owner divulge the name of the driver on the "High
Street" which is at another town some miles away.
The driver can truthfully reply that while they were on the
roads driving at that point at no time were they on the High
Street location/time stated on the 172 notice. The last similar
one we saw on here I recall was in Wales where the locations
were way off by umpteen 10's of miles. At that point I would
have thought the Police would quietly drop it.
I'm sure others on here can advise on the legality of the police
instead then saying - oh yes, sorry that 172 notice was a load
of rubbish - here is another one.
#Post#: 44948--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong location on NIP
DIR By: Logician
Date: November 10, 2024, 1:06 pm
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--- Quote from: d612 link ---
>
>
> I'm sure others on here can advise on the legality of the
police instead then saying - oh yes, sorry that 172 notice was a
load of rubbish - here is another one.
>
--- End Quote ---
They could do that but would have to do it within 14 days, so
the OP should bear that in mind and not reply until 14 days
after the date of the alleged offence.
#Post#: 44955--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong location on NIP
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: November 10, 2024, 1:49 pm
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Just an observation...
The OP gave us half the story in his first and so far only post,
well over 24 hours ago.
Someone who is usually more clued up than most asked a very
relevant question shortly afterwards.
The OP has so far elected to avoid troubling us with an answer,
which has not stopped some who ought to know better, and some
perhaps not, from making a lot of noise, providing advice that
may or may not be bollox depending on the missing part(s) of the
story.
Sic transit gloria mundi
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