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       #Post#: 44693--------------------------------------------------
       Bailiffs. Fine sent to old adress.
   DIR By: Dudess73
       Date: November 9, 2024, 1:38 am
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       Dear all,
       I moved house 6 months ago, and have come to know that two
       separate bailiffs visited my old address to collect £1000 for
       unpaid fines.
       The contravention was no left turn Tilling Road to Brentfield
       Gardens.
       My VRN was not updated yet. Royal Mail redirection was in place
       but I received not a single letter from Barnet.
       On contacting Barnet Council, I have come to find out that there
       are 7 contraventions for me all the same offence.
       I need to apply for PE2/PE3 Out of Time, which can take 2 weeks
       for a result, but the bailiff has said he will find me and take
       my car away within that time. The other 5 contraventions are
       near bailiff stage. I have asked the bailiff to put me on their
       vulnerable team as I have two young children but so far they
       have refused. So far I have only spoken over the phone to them
       and no correspondence has been received.
       I am so stressed. If I had received a single fine I would have
       paid and not made the mistake again. It seems so strange that So
       many letters from Barnet have not reached my new address but all
       other correspondence has.
       Thank you
       #Post#: 44712--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiffs. Fine sent to old adress.
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 9, 2024, 5:12 am
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       What is the address on the logbook.
       What is the car VRM (numberplate).
       This looks like you should get help from:
  HTML https://bailiffadviceonline.co.uk
       and maybe Mr Mustard (I think enforcing this location is or was
       defective).
       #Post#: 44714--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiffs. Fine sent to old adress.
   DIR By: Dudess73
       Date: November 9, 2024, 5:26 am
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       Thank you I will contact Mr Mustard. The logbook address is my
       old address.
       I just need time to get my out of time form processed- and for
       Barnet Council to put the bailiffs on hold so I can wait for
       their reply.
       #Post#: 44716--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiffs. Fine sent to old adress.
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 9, 2024, 5:32 am
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       This doesn't explain why mail redirection didn't work.
       What are the contravention dates.
       What date of move and what dates redirection in place.
       Have you looked at the logbook.
       #Post#: 44719--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiffs. Fine sent to old adress.
   DIR By: Dudess73
       Date: November 9, 2024, 5:53 am
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       I just spoke with Royal Mail- they say that government post does
       not get redirected! Just returned to sender- ie Barnet. I moved
       on 29th March and my first contravention date was on 18th April.
       The redirection date was from April 5th until 04 October. All
       2024
       Digging out my log book now
       #Post#: 44723--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiffs. Fine sent to old adress.
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: November 9, 2024, 6:12 am
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       > I just spoke with Royal Mail- they say that government post
       does not get redirected!
       --- End Quote ---
       Can you get that in writing? You paid for redirection?
       #Post#: 44724--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiffs. Fine sent to old adress.
   DIR By: Dudess73
       Date: November 9, 2024, 6:24 am
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       I will call Royal Mail and ask for it in writing.
       #Post#: 44725--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiffs. Fine sent to old adress.
   DIR By: Enceladus
       Date: November 9, 2024, 6:37 am
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       The royal Mail site says here
  HTML https://www.royalmail.com/d8/help/redirection
       "We can’t redirect:
       ..........
       Mail for people who weren’t living at the old address
       ..........
       Any mail the law prohibits us from redirecting. For example we
       may be required to notify the authorities of Redirection
       requests for mail relating to government benefits."
       Where does the law prohibit redirection of an envelope
       containing a PCN? I don't see how an envelope containing a
       statutory notice from a Local Authority is related to government
       benefits?
       Mail from Councils that can't be redirected are usually endorsed
       as such, are they not? I've never seen a PCN notice that's so
       endorsed.
       However was the V5c in your name or was it in the name of
       another family member? I've previously come across redirection
       fails if say John Smith is on the redirect request and the
       letter is addressed to his wife, Jane Smith.
       #Post#: 44728--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiffs. Fine sent to old adress.
   DIR By: Neil B
       Date: November 9, 2024, 7:07 am
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       --- Quote from: Dudess73 link ---
       >
       >
       > I just need time to get my out of time form processed- and for
       Barnet Council to put the bailiffs on hold so I can wait for
       their reply.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's not something to take lightly. It needs specific focussed
       content or it is likely to fail.
       You need to establish the facts with us here first.
       #Post#: 44730--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiffs. Fine sent to old adress.
   DIR By: Dudess73
       Date: November 9, 2024, 7:46 am
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       My V5c is in my maiden name - the redirect notice was in my
       married name.
       You are right - this may be why my post was not re-directed.
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