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Re: Harrow, code 33E using a restricted route, Headstone Lane
DIR By: Bustagate
Date: February 14, 2025, 2:25 pm
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Thanks. The width restriction is VERY close to the left turn.
There's also no advance warning of it when you're driving along
Melbourne Avenue, so it's a complete surprise when you reach the
junction, look left and think "What the hell is that? How do I
get through?".
I've been looking into this scheme and the one on Camrose
Avenue. They both date from 1976 and both were designed to have
electronically-controlled rising barriers (red-and-white-striped
poles) on the bus lane(s), which made them self-policing. Each
has a junction immediately before the restriction which makes
turning left into the width restriction very difficult. I
understand that locals tend to pull out as if to turn right from
the side road and then do a sharp left to get a better approach
to the width restriction. If you don't know what's about to hit
you (and why should you, given there's no
sign?), you face a choice between damaging your car and paying
Harrow's fee.
Harrow's motto is "Putting residents first". They do that by
levying a tax on non-residents, who lack the knowledge to
negotiate the traps which they have laid in their road system.
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Re: Harrow, code 33E using a restricted route, Headstone Lane
DIR By: Bustagate
Date: March 26, 2025, 1:09 pm
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A note to anyone who gets a PCN on Headstone Lane: the TMO is
nonsense, so I can't see how Harrow can enforce it.
The Harrow (Bus Priority) Traffic Order 2016
HTML https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/harrow_width_restriction_tmos/response/2867517/attach/2/8814463%202016%2039%20AMND.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1<br
/>defines the restricted section of road as:
--- Quote ---
> the carriageway which lies between the island site situated
between a point 6.00 metres north-east of the extended
north-eastern kerb-line of Melbourne Avenue and a point 9.00
metres north-east of that point.
--- End Quote ---
Let's define
AA = "a point 6.00 metres north-east of the extended
north-eastern kerb-line of Melbourne Avenue"
BB = "a point 9.00 metres north-east of that point"
Then the TMO is specifying:
--- Quote ---
> the carriageway which lies between the island site situated
between AA and BB.
--- End Quote ---
Some questions:
- What is "the island site"?
- The definition of BB by reference to the point AA makes sense,
but how is the point AA defined by reference to "the extended
north-eastern kerb-line of Melbourne Avenue"? That's a line, not
a point.
Let's suppose that we manage to resolve those questions. We
define:
CC = "the island site situated between AA and BB"
Now the TMO's specification of the restricted section of road
is:
--- Quote ---
> the carriageway which lies between CC.
--- End Quote ---
I defy anyone to explain how this is a legally-robust definition
of anything, let alone a section of road from which Harrow
Council makes £500,000 a year.
If there isn't a valid TMO (or rather, that part of the TMO for
Headstone Lane is invalid), Harrow can't just brush this off.
Southwark Council has just been forced to refund a load of PCNs
HTML https://southwarknews.co.uk/area/rotherhithe/exclusive-council-to-refund-over-100k-to-drivers-wrongly-fined-at-lower-road-bus-lane/<br
/>because they had an experimental TMO which expired and they
didn't put a new one in place but continued to issue PCNs when
there wasn't a TMO.
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