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       #Post#: 44504--------------------------------------------------
       PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland
       road/aylesbury Bromley)
   DIR By: nikhil
       Date: November 8, 2024, 3:45 am
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       Hi
       I got a notice letter for a pcn (by97079698) on 25/10 for an
       incident on 20/10 for stopping in a yellow box, i dont remember
       this but it could have been traffic lights suddenly turned red
       and i went too early.
       Is there any grounds for appeal?  I have until tomorrow to pay
       the reduced fee
       Contravention code 31j.  They uploaded the pictures/video online
       Appeciate any advice
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       #Post#: 44505--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland
       road/aylesbury Bromley)
   DIR By: nikhil
       Date: November 8, 2024, 3:47 am
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       Letter
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       #Post#: 44506--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland
       road/aylesbury Bromley)
   DIR By: boggler
       Date: November 8, 2024, 3:51 am
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       --- Quote from: nikhil link ---
       >
       > Hi
       >
       > I got a notice letter for a pcn (by97079698) on 25/10 for an
       incident on 20/10 for stopping in a yellow box, i dont remember
       this but it could have been traffic lights suddenly turned red
       and i went too early.
       >
       > Is there any grounds for appeal?  I have until tomorrow to pay
       the reduced fee
       >
       > Contravention code 31j.  They uploaded the pictures/video
       online
       >
       > Appeciate any advice
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I know that one well. You are usually better off in the left
       side lane as unless there is bus congestion ahead (which you can
       usually see), you can still swing round to the right and head up
       towards Masons Hill.
       #Post#: 44518--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland
       road/aylesbury Bromley)
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 8, 2024, 4:33 am
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       What is the car VRM (numberplate). It is pointless blanking this
       as we can't get the video.
       #Post#: 44521--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland
       road/aylesbury Bromley)
   DIR By: nikhil
       Date: November 8, 2024, 4:37 am
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       Thanks it’s n1ykg
       #Post#: 44525--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland
       road/aylesbury Bromley)
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 8, 2024, 4:51 am
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       You look to have fallen asleep - if you'd been awake you would
       have exited in the wide open left lane...
       There was a time when you could argue the exit wasn't blocked
       owing to an empty lane but it won't wash now but you can try.
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       #Post#: 44553--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland
       road/aylesbury Bromley)
   DIR By: nikhil
       Date: November 8, 2024, 5:45 am
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       Thanks, plus there was still room for any cars to turn right, i
       didnt anticipate lights changing so quick and car in front was
       moving
       Is there any other appeal grounds or template letter to use?
       #Post#: 44840--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland
       road/aylesbury Bromley)
   DIR By: nikhil
       Date: November 9, 2024, 6:06 pm
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       Hi so is exit not being blocked and space for a right turning
       car all i have to appeal on?
       #Post#: 44939--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland
       road/aylesbury Bromley)
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: November 10, 2024, 12:49 pm
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       You've come on here rather too late for advice if you want to
       preserve the discount option. You look bang-to-rights on the
       contravention itself, but that's not necessarily the end of the
       story, because there could be a 'technical' appeal based on the
       council management of the enforcement process. But I see nobody
       has yet posted anything for this aspect.
       We normally advise OPs to submit some reps and let us see the
       response which can lead to a successful appeal due to their
       stupdity, but if you're not prepared to forego the discount
       option, then paying it now seems your best option.
       #Post#: 44975--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland
       road/aylesbury Bromley)
   DIR By: nikhil
       Date: November 10, 2024, 6:25 pm
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       Thsnks its still in the discount period just, if i appeal today
       and its rejected can i still pay the reduced fee?
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