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#Post#: 44342--------------------------------------------------
Wrong body type on NIP
DIR By: Hitz
Date: November 7, 2024, 4:42 am
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Hi,
I wonder if anyone can provide some advice as I don't know what
to do. I have received a NiP (first in 15 years driving). 57 on
a 50 motorway stretch. I drive a lot for work and due to looking
after family in different cities, and while I've been around the
stretch of motorway in the past I can't recall if I was driving
there on that particular day. But what has left me very confused
is that my car is described as a Saloon on the NiP while my car
is a tiny hatchback (I have the logbook confirming this). The
registration that appears on the NIP is mine, but the body type
is not my car's, so I have no clue how to complete the NIP. To
the question where you driving such vehicle I'd have to answer
no as I don't drive a saloon car (never have), but I can't
identify the driver either. I'm concerned my registration has
been cloned or something. How do I reply to the NIP as it
doesn't give the option of being unable to identify the driver
of a car that is different to mine, while the registration and
model are correct, it says on the NIP this is for a saloon car.
I want this over with and wouldn't have an issue paying a fine
or whatever, but I feel uneasy because I'll be lying saying I
was driving the car described on the NIP (just to get this over
with), but also it says I could be prosecuted for failure to
identify the driver, there isn't an option to explain that the
car described on the NIP doesn't match mine, and obviously I
dont know who is driving saloon car with my registration. If my
car registration has been cloned and I lied saying I was the
driver of the saloon car described when I wasn't, what about if
I start receiving more fines? What should I do?
#Post#: 44344--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong body type on NIP
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: November 7, 2024, 4:52 am
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What does the V5C say?
#Post#: 44353--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong body type on NIP
DIR By: Hitz
Date: November 7, 2024, 5:36 am
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As mentioned on the post my logbook / V5C says hatchback
#Post#: 44362--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong body type on NIP
DIR By: JRHartley
Date: November 7, 2024, 6:16 am
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Ask for any photos to help you identify the driver. If they are
provided, you'll be able to confirm whether it's your car, or
not.
#Post#: 44366--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong body type on NIP
DIR By: Hitz
Date: November 7, 2024, 6:22 am
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If I ask for photos to check if it was my car or a cloned car,
and it turns out to be mine, do I have to ask them to issue a
new NIP with the correct details on it?
#Post#: 44377--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong body type on NIP
DIR By: JRHartley
Date: November 7, 2024, 6:47 am
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No. If it turns out to be your car, fill in the S.172 request
confirming you were driving, and the process will continue as
normal.
Be aware that requesting photos doesn't stop the 28 day clock to
reply.
#Post#: 44386--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong body type on NIP
DIR By: BertB
Date: November 7, 2024, 7:30 am
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--- Quote from: Hitz link ---
>
> If I ask for photos to check if it was my car or a cloned car,
and it turns out to be mine, do I have to ask them to issue a
new NIP with the correct details on it?
>
--- End Quote ---
Don't mention suspected clone vehicle. We have seen in the past
they sometimes tend to clam up and play the 'you first' card. In
that they ask you to send pictures of your vehicle to them so
they can compare them with the captured image.
The feeling usually is around you 'modifying' your vehicle to
look different from the captured image. Although how you would
manage that in this instance is a puzzle, but never credit the
CTO with having the competence to understand that.
To be safe and to not prolong the encounter, just ask for photos
to help with identifying the driver.
#Post#: 44387--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong body type on NIP
DIR By: Hitz
Date: November 7, 2024, 7:32 am
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Sorry I'm confused, are you saying I should lie and sign the
form saying I was driving a saloon car when I was not, just to
be within the 28 days? Even if I receive photos of a saloon car
with my registration I doubt I could identify the driver, as I
assume that would be someone random. If it turns out my
registration has been cloned and I signed a form saying I was
driving a saloon car I'm concerned I could be liable for any
other fines that are nothing to do with me (I don't own, or have
ever driven a saloon car)
#Post#: 44390--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong body type on NIP
DIR By: BertB
Date: November 7, 2024, 7:41 am
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It would be an administrative error, which to argue against you
would need to take it to court. At which point the mistake would
be acknowledged and the case would proceed.
If the picture shows your vehicle and not a saloon, are you
going to argue you can't respond because someone called you car
something different on a piece of paper?
Edit to add: No, if the vehicle is not yours of course you do
not respond saying you were the driver. You send pictures of
your vehicle to the CTO showing them the differences.
#Post#: 44393--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wrong body type on NIP
DIR By: Hitz
Date: November 7, 2024, 7:59 am
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Sorry, that's not what I'm saying or what I was asking. As my
post mentions I simply don't know how to complete the form,as
the option of 'the car described here doesnt match mine ' doesnt
exist. I will ask for photos and if they arrive on time I'll
know if the car was mine or not, but if I don't receive the
photos within the next few days I still have to reply to the
letter to be within the 28days (I've been away and only have 9
days left to reply), and that's my issue I don't know how to
complete it because if I sign it saying I was driving a saloon
car I'd be lying but if I dont provide the details of the driver
of the saloon car mentioned on the NIP it says I can be
prosecuted. So I feel the only option I have is to lie and say
I was driving such car when I was not.
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