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       #Post#: 43746--------------------------------------------------
       Greenwich, code 01 parked in a restricted street, Langdale Road
   DIR By: booyaka
       Date: November 3, 2024, 10:07 am
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       The driver was parked on a single yellow line outside their
       house. They were parked there so they could load into the van as
       they were moving house. They have a permit and would usually
       park in one of the bays on the road.
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       Thank you.
       #Post#: 43753--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Greenwich, code 01 parked in a restricted street, Langdale
       Road
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 3, 2024, 11:00 am
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       Loading is an exemption but you have to be in the process of
       loading.
       No observation time on PCN which helps you.
       So what was going on when the CEO saw nothing going on?
       #Post#: 43756--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Greenwich, code 01 parked in a restricted street, Langdale
       Road
   DIR By: booyaka
       Date: November 3, 2024, 11:09 am
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       I was carrying a wardrobe down two flights of stairs when the
       when the CEO saw nothing going on.
       #Post#: 43758--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Greenwich, code 01 parked in a restricted street, Langdale
       Road
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 3, 2024, 11:14 am
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       Is it a hire van?
       To challenge this on loading you'll need to get evidence of
       moving, hire etc. to try and get cancellation at first stage.
       #Post#: 43760--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Greenwich, code 01 parked in a restricted street, Langdale
       Road
   DIR By: booyaka
       Date: November 3, 2024, 11:22 am
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       It's not a hire van. I can provide proof of moving house with my
       renting contract. The rental start date is the same date as the
       PCN.
       Or could I contest saying the vehicle was not parked for more
       than 10 minutes?
       #Post#: 43767--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Greenwich, code 01 parked in a restricted street, Langdale
       Road
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 3, 2024, 12:06 pm
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       Who is the registered keeper of the van?
       Your only chance is to claim the loading exemption. A rental
       contract is good evidence.
       Were you carrying the wardrobe on your own?
       #Post#: 43769--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Greenwich, code 01 parked in a restricted street, Langdale
       Road
   DIR By: booyaka
       Date: November 3, 2024, 12:10 pm
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       The registered keeper is a family member. I am a named driver.
       My housemate was helping me move the wardrobe.
       #Post#: 43777--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Greenwich, code 01 parked in a restricted street, Langdale
       Road
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: November 3, 2024, 12:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: booyaka link ---
       >
       > The registered keeper is a family member. I am a named driver.
       My housemate was helping me move the wardrobe.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The registered keeper has full responsibility for paying or
       appealing a PCN; who was driving the vehicle at the time is
       irrelevant. However, the registered keeper can authorise a
       person to act for them in submitting representations or
       attending at an adjudication, (personally or by phone).  If,
       however, the case is lost, the registered keeper is responsible
       for payment.
       #Post#: 43788--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Greenwich, code 01 parked in a restricted street, Langdale
       Road
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 3, 2024, 1:24 pm
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       That the van is in the family is good news as you may get a
       rejection at informal stage.
       Get a brief signed statement from your housemate about
       assistance and draft a challenge to put to Greenwich that
       details how you were in the process of loading from leaving the
       van to returning.
       Note you are/were a permit holder. I presume you had to park
       near and no spaces were available.
       But the PCN is dated 13 October - have you already challenged?
       #Post#: 43803--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Greenwich, code 01 parked in a restricted street, Langdale
       Road
   DIR By: booyaka
       Date: November 3, 2024, 3:53 pm
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       Ok great, I will draft a challenge tomorrow. I have not already
       challenged it.
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