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I'm new here (Sorry I only have 7 days left to respond)
DIR By: MrJosefK
Date: November 3, 2024, 6:43 am
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Hi,
I was recently a trip from Kent to Oxfordshire, I was with my
wife which means I was more acutely aware of my driving and
speeds than I might be ordinarily.
So a few weeks later I was very surprised to receive an NIP.
I was using mostly ACC (Adaptive cruise control,) as large parts
of the journey had variable speeds limits and this is my way to
reduce tiredness and reduce the possibility of speeding!
The only rationale I have is;
I believe that I had already passed this sign before it became
illuminated and I was decelerating, or I started slowing down as
I reached the sign, I really cannot make sense of this.
You may note on. the opposite side of the road, a police car, so
there is no way this was intentional, nor would it be otherwise.
Any help and/or feedback would be appreciated, I have already
received a similar NIP some 6/7 years prior and was required to
take a speed awareness course ( and x3 points), so do not
believe I will be offered the same, I cannot afford to get
points as I drive for work.
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#Post#: 43730--------------------------------------------------
Re: I'm new here (Sorry I only have 7 days left to respond)
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: November 3, 2024, 7:24 am
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Are you suggesting that the "50" limit was not displayed when
you passed the gantry? I would be surprised because the cameras
are not activated to trigger at the lower limit until some time
after it has changed. Or are you saying it was, but you only
started to slow down after you had passed it?
--- Quote ---
> I have already received a similar NIP some 6/7 years prior and
was required to take a speed awareness course ( and x3 points),
so do not believe I will be offered the same,
>
--- End Quote ---
I would be surprised if you were required to take a course and
had three points imposed - it's one or the other, not both.
Howeverit's of no consequence that will have no bearing on this
matter - it was too long ago. You should be offered a course for
that speed. You are bang on the upper limit for such an offer -
(Limit + 10% +9mph) so 64mph.
#Post#: 43731--------------------------------------------------
Re: I'm new here (Sorry I only have 7 days left to respond)
DIR By: MrJosefK
Date: November 3, 2024, 7:38 am
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Hi @ NewJudge thanks for your response.
I really cannot fully recall, I know that I was being extra
vigilant as it was a long drive and that this was around 60
minutes in to it. I "think" I may have began to slow down after
I passed the gantry, but again this would not be typical
behaviour for me, as I tend to slow down as soon as I see the
new speed limit, but this seems to be the only logical
conclusion.
thanks also for the advice of the 10% +9mph
#Post#: 43738--------------------------------------------------
Re: I'm new here (Sorry I only have 7 days left to respond)
DIR By: RichardW
Date: November 3, 2024, 8:16 am
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Photos say limit changed 45 mins before the photo. A long while
since the event, are you the registered keeper?
#Post#: 43743--------------------------------------------------
Re: I'm new here (Sorry I only have 7 days left to respond)
DIR By: MrJosefK
Date: November 3, 2024, 9:04 am
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Yes, I recently noticed this on the photo, my wife is the
registered keeper.
#Post#: 43744--------------------------------------------------
Re: I'm new here (Sorry I only have 7 days left to respond)
DIR By: 666
Date: November 3, 2024, 9:09 am
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--- Quote from: MrJosefK link ---
>
> Yes, I recently noticed this on the photo, my wife is the
registered keeper.
>
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So who has received the NIP - you or her?
Whichever, all you can do at this stage is to reply naming the
driver.
#Post#: 43750--------------------------------------------------
Re: I'm new here (Sorry I only have 7 days left to respond)
DIR By: Dave Green
Date: November 3, 2024, 10:29 am
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One question.
You state that:
--- Quote from: MrJosefK link ---
>
> So a few weeks later I was very surprised to receive an NIP.
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How long exactly from the date of the offence was it before you
received the NIP? and was this the first correspondence received
or did your wife get an earlier notice that she responded to
naming you as the driver?
#Post#: 43850--------------------------------------------------
Re: I'm new here (Sorry I only have 7 days left to respond)
DIR By: MrJosefK
Date: November 4, 2024, 4:32 am
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Hi,
NIP received around 10-14 days later, my wife neglected to give
to me, then replied offering myself as the named driver.This was
the only correspondence, until I received a letter, under my
name, some 14 days or so later
#Post#: 43860--------------------------------------------------
Re: I'm new here (Sorry I only have 7 days left to respond)
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: November 4, 2024, 5:17 am
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> my wife neglected to give to me,
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She had no reason to give it to you. In fact quite the opposite
- she was obliged to respond to it herself.
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> This was the only correspondence, until I received a letter,
under my name, some 14 days or so later
>
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Which is exactly as it should be. Were you expecting anything
else?
#Post#: 43862--------------------------------------------------
Re: I'm new here (Sorry I only have 7 days left to respond)
DIR By: MrJosefK
Date: November 4, 2024, 5:23 am
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it was not a criticism, thanks have a nice day
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