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       #Post#: 3063--------------------------------------------------
       Re: help, 19 y.o 4 tickets same camera, speed impossible
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: August 11, 2023, 2:17 am
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       Is his speedometer faulty?
       #Post#: 3075--------------------------------------------------
       Re: help, 19 y.o 4 tickets same camera, speed impossible
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: August 11, 2023, 5:43 am
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       > 1200mtrs to go from 30mph to 58mph seems doable
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       If it really is that far from the junction to the point he was
       caught, I cannot see how he can possibly argue that his car is
       incapable of reaching 58mph in that distance. I would suggest it
       could comfortably achieve that from a standing start.
       #Post#: 3078--------------------------------------------------
       Re: help, 19 y.o 4 tickets same camera, speed impossible
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: August 11, 2023, 5:54 am
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       I think we need the OP to confirm the locations of where the
       camera was, and where the car was travelling from.
       #Post#: 3083--------------------------------------------------
       Re: help, 19 y.o 4 tickets same camera, speed impossible
   DIR By: guest303
       Date: August 11, 2023, 7:06 am
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       --- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
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       > I think we need the OP to confirm the locations of where the
       camera was, and where the car was travelling from.
       >
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       "OP has left the building".
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       #Post#: 3086--------------------------------------------------
       Re: help, 19 y.o 4 tickets same camera, speed impossible
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: August 11, 2023, 7:42 am
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       --- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
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       > I think we need the OP to confirm the locations of where the
       camera was, and where the car was travelling from.
       >
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       Or even better, get their son to provide the information first
       hand.
       Send three and fourpence...
       #Post#: 3089--------------------------------------------------
       Re: help, 19 y.o 4 tickets same camera, speed impossible
   DIR By: Spandex
       Date: August 11, 2023, 9:32 am
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       Doubt if we hear anymore off Tawana  ::)  ::)  ::)
       #Post#: 3093--------------------------------------------------
       Re: help, 19 y.o 4 tickets same camera, speed impossible
   DIR By: guest303
       Date: August 11, 2023, 10:39 am
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       Well Tawananyasha let us hope as your name implies that "you
       have found grace or mercy from the Most High" in this case the
       Most High is the Po Po and from past personal experience of The
       Po Po GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FIGHT.
       #Post#: 3124--------------------------------------------------
       Re: help, 19 y.o 4 tickets same camera, speed impossible
   DIR By: guest46
       Date: August 12, 2023, 5:25 am
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       As above - I've done that route many times - my 15 y/o Fiesta
       would easily get from 30 past 50 in that distance (in the right
       gear!).
       Someone hasn't told us the whole story here..............
       #Post#: 3677--------------------------------------------------
       Re: help, 19 y.o 4 tickets same camera, speed impossible
   DIR By: Colin_S
       Date: August 22, 2023, 5:13 am
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       --- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
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       > I know that area quite well.
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       > Was he heading from Bexley Village, towards the London bound
       A2 (i.e. with the Holiday Inn on the right)? Perhaps here?
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       >
  HTML https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.447241,0.153756,0h,0p,1.3z,JKuOfwC8QPdv6fEyPMLmqw
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       > I'm not sure how far beyond the beginning of the 50mph limit
       the camera is.
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       > The problem he faces is that an approved device (the camera
       and its associated speed measurement apparatus) is assumed to be
       working correctly unless the contrary can be shown.
       Unfortunately simply suggesting such a speed is not possible is
       unlikely to cut the mustard.
       >
       > Can you confirm the location?
       >
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       I know that area very well. The camera in question is an average
       speed camera. The exit camera is, I believe, quite a few miles
       down the road just past the Well Hall Road underpass. Plenty of
       time to achieve an average speed of 58mph.
       There's a whole host of average speed cameras on that stretch
       through to the Blackwall Tunnel and quite how the cameras work
       with one another is a bit of a mystery but this link gives some
       clues as to which sections are 'policed' by the cameras -
  HTML https://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/foi-media/metropolitan-police/disclosure_2021/january_2021/location-of-speeding-offences-november-2019-november-20202
       Line 123 on the spreadsheet - Southwold Rd On Slip nr A2 East
       Rochester Way DA5 to A2 Rochester Way Relief Rd nr Well Hall Rd
       SE9 W/B (35313501)
       Location of camera referred to in OP -
  HTML https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4474124,0.1536686,3a,75y,341.91h,98.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZCYcCZUEv3Z_bAQKC_kH-w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu
       #Post#: 3711--------------------------------------------------
       Re: help, 19 y.o 4 tickets same camera, speed impossible
   DIR By: Spandex
       Date: August 22, 2023, 11:06 am
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       This guy is obviously not going to discuss this anymore so maybe
       we just close the thread.
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